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To: Zionist Conspirator

Good analysis, although I have one quibble: Hispanics, per se, should not be included in the “thesis.” What the left is trying to do is create a brand name, so to speak, and also to refine the idea of Hispanic so that it refers not to someone with Spanish (i.e., European) roots, but to someone with South American Indian (”idigenous peoples”) roots. They haven’t quite figured out how to get around the Spanish part of it, but they’re working on that. People like Chavez and Garcia go on and on about how they are really products of some indigenous group, and in Bolivia, the government has even revived a native llama-worshiping religion. The Catholic Church is rejected and, as we see in Mexico, even attacked, and the Spanish language is also rejected. Many rural Mexicans cannot speak Spanish because the left has been insisting on reviving the indigenous languages and trying to restrict instruction or education in Spanish.

So I think rather than “white,” you’d have to say that the antithesis is European. In the case of Latin America, this is difficult for leftists to achieve, but they have whipped up enormous hatred of all Spanish symbols or historical figures associated with Spain, such as Columbus and the Spanish explorers. And of course, to the left. one of the great evils the Spanish brought was the power of the Church to convert people and overcome the native religions, which had all those charming cultural features such as human sacrifice, cannibalism, etc.

The left really has only two hatreds, and of these, one is greater than all the others: It hates European culture and history, but it hates them specifically because they project Christianity. Anglo-Saxon is not the key word. The left would be perfectly happy to bring back delightful Anglo Saxon cultural practices such as burning people in wicker baskets or painting oneself blue. The thing it really hates more than anything else is Christianity, and it will ally with anything it perceives as an enemy of Christianity.

I think you could say that German romanticism - which you have accurately identified as the source - was visible not only in the thought of Marx, but that of Hitler as well. And Hitler wanted to get back to a pre-Christian German “identity,” trying to dream up practices that expressed the glories of the (pre-Christian) German peoples and basically trying to start his own nature-worshipping, old-gods Germanic religion, which would supplant his arch-enemy, the slave religion of Christianity.


17 posted on 11/23/2007 3:35:36 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
Good analysis, although I have one quibble: Hispanics, per se, should not be included in the “thesis.” What the left is trying to do is create a brand name, so to speak, and also to refine the idea of Hispanic so that it refers not to someone with Spanish (i.e., European) roots, but to someone with South American Indian (”idigenous peoples”) roots. They haven’t quite figured out how to get around the Spanish part of it, but they’re working on that. People like Chavez and Garcia go on and on about how they are really products of some indigenous group, and in Bolivia, the government has even revived a native llama-worshiping religion. The Catholic Church is rejected and, as we see in Mexico, even attacked, and the Spanish language is also rejected. Many rural Mexicans cannot speak Spanish because the left has been insisting on reviving the indigenous languages and trying to restrict instruction or education in Spanish.

This is most interesting indeed. I of course am not familiar with the situation in Latin America, but have long observed that here in the United States Spanish seems to have been re-classified from a European colonial language to an "indigenous" language. American media and education are inundated with Spanish in the name of multiculturalism while truly non-European and exotic languages (Mongolian, Armenian, even Arabic) are ignored. And Columbus is not treated as a Spaniard but a "gringo!"

I did not attribute German romantic nationalism to Marx but to the post-Marxist Left who replaced the "toiling masses" with "oppressed peoples." And I must point out that the Left not only does not oppose, but actually celebrates (seemingly without critique) the chr*stianity of its beloved "oppressed peoples." This is most obvious in the case of American Blacks but applies also to the Catholicism of the Hispanics (in the US). Ironically, as far back as the nineteenth century Irish Catholicism (as the religion of an "oppressed people") was exempted from Marxist critique and Irish Marxists were often devout Catholics.

The whole "going back to ancient paganism" thing certainly seems to fly in the face of the Left's eternal mantra of "progress," just as does its environmentalism. But consider that the Left condemned Bob Dylan in the Sixties for moving beyond the purity of acoustic folk music to electric instruments. So, what was that about "progress" and "reaction" again???

Hmmm . . . so the Left is working to exterminate Spanish in Latin America and to impose it on Anglo-America. Interesting. And crazy, of course.

18 posted on 11/23/2007 4:03:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Lo' Ya`aqov ye'amer `od shimkha ki-'im Yisra'el; ki-sariyta `im-'Eloqim ve`im-'anashim vatukhal.)
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