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To: RobbyS

Doesn’t negate my previous statement.

Nowhere in the Bible do I find even one incident wherein Jesus is found mincing words to appease anyone. And from what I understand, the Pope is the representative of Jesus on earth. If the Pope is the true representative of Jesus on earth, he should be using the Sword of the Lord (His Word) to convert these heathen.

Strong words based on the Word of God will convert the heathen faster than anything else. The swift Sword of the Lord (His word) is stronger than the words of man.


4 posted on 12/11/2007 9:17:35 PM PST by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019

You will find it hard to make a pious Muslim even open a Bible. He thinks of it as you and I do the Gospel of Judas.


5 posted on 12/11/2007 9:22:19 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: doc1019
Talk is cheap. I am pretty sure that the airport in Riyadh is open, and flights arrive there from the West every week. What are you waiting for?

Don't lecture the Pope (or any other Christian leader, Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox) in such a fashion unless you're willing to walk the walk yourself. There is such a thing as using your head about these things, ya know. Even the earliest Christians did not generally leap to their feet and lecture the Roman Emperor about the follies of paganism at every theoretical opportunity. They exercised a certain amount of circumspection and common sense. They stayed in the shadows, mostly, in an effort to preserve their lives. When they were caught and accused of the "crime" of being a Christian, an amazing percentage stood their ground and held on to and defended their faith in the face of torture and death. But they still had to be caught first! Very few threw themselves into certain death situations by - say - standing up in the crowd in the arena and giving a catechetical lesson for the benefit of those present to see the deaths of still more Christians.

Also, the Pope presumably is thinking of the danger in which he would be putting the small Christian minorities in many Muslim countries should he be too direct in his criticisms. A lot more options might be open for him if the Christian populations of the Middle East were able to immigrate to the last man, but that is highly impractical and exposes, for at least a time, all of the Christian holy sites to the desecrations of the Muslims. Since, realistically, there will always be some Christian presence in the Middle East, what do you propose to do to minimize the likely genocide following a real "tell it like it is" session on the Pope's part? Remember, a large percentage of the Muslims worldwide went berserk just because of a few anti-Muslim cartoons in a far-away Danish newspaper!!

Benedict clearly has a long-term plan to deal with these people. It won't be quite as quick and flashy as you seem to want, but at least he is taking steps. I like what he's already doing in preferrence to your plan for him of instant self-immolation, but perhaps he can be persuaded to come around to your thinking. If he says "Hey, that's a great idea! You go first!" will I be seeing you on the 11 o'clock news getting stoned to death on the aforementioned Riyadh tarmac?

18 posted on 12/12/2007 8:20:18 AM PST by magisterium
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