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To: Mad Dawg; Campion; livius
Evidently "Protestant" is now a term about which those who protest the claims of the Holy See to authority disagree! Some of those who protest the claims don't want others who protest the claims to call themselves "Protestant".

Look upon it as an attempt to cut down on some misunderstandings created by generalizations about "Protestants".

So far in this thread I've read that not only don't we disbelieve in the real presence, but we refuse the Eucharist. We have female ministers, we don't believe in the Trinity (since we claim descent from Arians & it seems we have Luther to thank for that), we all seem to teach that artificial birth control is okie dokey, our understanding about the catholic church is wrong & confoozled, seems we do not understand the difference between truth and the expression of truth, between accuracy and precision, we do not understand the notion of context . .

Back in post #18, Campion wrote: I have a suggestion. Why don't you let us describe our own beliefs, instead of trying to tell us what we believe (and getting it wrong).

We're told what we believe all of the time & here it began with the article that began this thread.

79 posted on 01/05/2008 4:51:00 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
Good point.

Maybe the term has outlived its usefulness. The use here on FR got my attention because I was brought up in an organization which called itself the "Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America" and did so until after I was ordained, I think.

And, as I've said on FR before, it was at an acolytes festival at "Smoky Mary's" in NYC that I first saw candle racks and people praying to, ah, idols.

I've found that some Protestants on FR don't take kindly to that's being called "protestant", but that's what the piskies thought they were back then.

81 posted on 01/05/2008 4:59:02 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: GoLightly; livius
Oddly enough, Protestants frequently hold up Arians and other Arian-influenced heretics as what they refer to as the true (but submerged) Church that limped along in the shadows and didn’t emerge for 1400 years until the advent of Luther.

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So far in this thread I've read ... we don't believe in the Trinity (since we claim descent from Arians & it seems we have Luther to thank for that)

I'm no scholar on Luther, but I've never read anything that would suggest he had Arian sympathies. That would be news to me!

95 posted on 01/05/2008 5:59:55 PM PST by Zero Sum (Liberalism: The damage ends up being a thousand times the benefit! (apologies to Rabbi Benny Lau))
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