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Bill would lift limits on child abuse suits [Colorado's Catholic Leaders are against it]
Rocky Mountain News ^ | January 14, 2008 | Katie Kerwin McCrimmon

Posted on 01/24/2008 5:53:26 PM PST by Alex Murphy

Colorado's Catholic Church leaders are planning to again fight a bill that would give victims more time to sue predators who sexually abused them as children.

A measure by state Rep. Gwyn Green, D-Golden, would lift the statute of limitations for civil lawsuits for children who suffer sexual abuse from now on. Any past victims for whom the statute of limitations has expired would have a two-year window - starting in July - to file a civil lawsuit against their alleged abusers or any institution that knowingly allowed the abuse.

Ted Thompson, executive director for the National Association to Prevent Sexual Abuse of Children, called on Colorado lawmakers to unanimously pass the bill.

"This issue is black and white," Thompson said. "When it comes to the sexual abuse of a child, a statute of limitation only limits the victims. You limit the person who suffered the abuse and give a get-out-of-jail- free card to the guy who did the abuse."

Under Colorado's current statute of limitations, Coloradans who suffer abuse have six years after they turn 18 to sue their abusers. Children's advocates say that is not enough time because many victims blame themselves and often hide their abuse for years before reporting it or considering criminal or civil action against their abuser.

In 2006, Green sponsored a bill that would have allowed victims unlimited time to file future lawsuits against private institutions if those institutions tried to cover up sexual abuse. The Catholic Church felt it was being unfairly singled out.

The bill eventually was amended to include public schools and governments. Those groups then joined in opposing the measure. The sponsors let their bill die rather than see it weakened.

This year's measure, House Bill 1011, never mentions the Catholic

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To: ArrogantBustard; Gamecock; wmfights; Campion; OpusatFR
These folks who want to eliminate the legitimate protection of the innocent provided by the "statute of limitations" are fanatics.

What would you call those folks who actively enabled preying upon the innocent, by covering up known abuses and moving priests about the country to avoid prosecution?

In 2006, Green sponsored a bill that would have allowed victims unlimited time to file future lawsuits against private institutions if those institutions tried to cover up sexual abuse.

"Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
- Matthew 18:6 / Mark 9:42 / Luke 17:12


21 posted on 01/25/2008 3:03:14 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: wmfights

How can the innocent defend themselves in such a case?

And, in an age where accusation=guilt (in the popular eye), where do the innocent go to get their reputation back?


22 posted on 01/25/2008 3:03:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Alex Murphy
I call them conspirators in crime ...

What do you call those who level false accusations against the innocent? What does the Bible say about bearing false witness?

23 posted on 01/25/2008 3:07:28 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: Alex Murphy
Green is a fanatic, BTW. The proof of my accusation is right there in your post.

I have no use whatsoever for fanatics.

24 posted on 01/25/2008 3:09:14 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: wmfights
I remember the hysteria around the McMartin case and rush to judgment. The same error can occur if charges can be filed way after the fact.

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Quite right.

25 posted on 01/25/2008 3:10:38 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Those that were complicit in covering up a crime of sexual abuse should suffer the same penalty as the abuser.

No!!!!!

Those who are, currently, engaged in such behaviour, maybe ... that's the basis of conspiracy laws. Make sure that your law covers protestant congregations, public schools, youth organisations, everybody.

What you proposed, though, was to pass an ex post facto law. That's unconstitutional, morally reprehensible, and very dangerous.

26 posted on 01/25/2008 3:14:03 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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What do you call those who level false accusations against the innocent? What does the Bible say about bearing false witness?

If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
- Deuteronomy 19:16-19

27 posted on 01/25/2008 3:16:08 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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What would you call those folks who actively enabled preying upon the innocent, by covering up known abuses and moving priests about the country to avoid prosecution?

Criminals.

Where you can find proof that abusers were being moved around, without the authorities being aware of the accusations, those people should be in prison. But after a lot of years how do you tell who knew what and when?

28 posted on 01/25/2008 3:23:51 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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And, in an age where accusation=guilt (in the popular eye), where do the innocent go to get their reputation back?

They never really do.

The hysteria that follows a potential sexual crime is incredible. Everyone rightfully wants someone punished. However, how many people have been imprisoned in rape cases to later be released when dna proved they were innocent, too many. The same thing applies to clergy that are accused many years later.

29 posted on 01/25/2008 3:31:19 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Make sure that your law covers protestant congregations, public schools, youth organisations, everybody.

You've got to stop assuming that I'm talking about the RCC exclusively. I was very careful not to point a finger. It is a problem that can happen anywhere.

What you proposed, though, was to pass an ex post facto law. That's unconstitutional, morally reprehensible, and very dangerous.

But what about the organization that systematically keeps the criminal authorities from knowing what's being claimed? Should the statue of limitations stop and then start over when this is uncovered. The other question is why wasn't the crime reported to the police in the first place?

30 posted on 01/25/2008 3:38:11 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Alex Murphy; ArrogantBustard; Gamecock; wmfights; Campion; OpusatFR
Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. - Deuteronomy 19:16-19

Too bad we don't do that.

31 posted on 01/25/2008 3:40:28 PM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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