Posted on 02/03/2008 1:07:49 PM PST by Gamecock
OUT OF HERE! AWAY FROM ME! IN THE NAME OF JESUS!
That’s a pip! LOL!
Judge,
Jesus I know and Paul I know but who the *%^$^@&%$(&*^(&*^
are you?
No, they haven't been. Please see: http://skepdic.com/aliens.html
There is, of course, the remotest chance that I'm wrong, in which case I recommend going to http://www.aliensurvivalguide.net/. I particularly like the fact they advise going for a head shot with an AK-47...the best defense is a good offense!
Interesting site.
With weary-some old rationalizations and half truths. John Mack was a top flight psychiatrist—head of the Harvard Med School clinic or some such.
And the skeptic’s description of abductees etc. is askew of solid research to the contrary.
imho, most skeptics are paid shills for the government or folks who’s religion of science would crash and burn if they admitted something so strange. I have little use for any of them.
The estimate of 3-4 million doesn’t rest only on the survey.
There are reports from folks involved in . . . the taking . . . side of things . . . who have asserted XXX numbers a day. I forget the specifics.
This has been going on for many decades, BTW.
There’s tons of disinformation and deception involved, to be sure. But the existence of such goings on, is no longer a doubt, to me.
I know. In my book, it’s a classic. But the jumping out the window thing was an obvious departure (jump) from the real and amazing story.
(Winston Zeddemore) Ah, if there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
The people making money off this sort of thing aren't the skeptics...it's those who promulgate the claptrap. For a light-hearted but insightful look at this sort of thing, check out Penn & Teller's show Bullsh*t on Showtime. I can't recommend it highly enough.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Sure quite a number of people have made money . . . many of them off a lot of hogwash.
But it’s not ALL hogwash by a very big long shot.
You obviously havne’t had a relative working around the UFO type craft routinely.
We'll have to agree to disagree...I think it is all hogwash. These sorts of things never hold up to scientific scrutiny.
It's true that I don't have a relative who works around a "UFO type craft" routinely. The way you phrased that implies that you do. Details, please?
I’ve said about all I can say many times hereon.
He worked in a highly classified area in Nevada and saw the craft in the normal course of his job on an almost daily basis. He didn’t actually work hands on with the craft but was plenty close to KNOW of their existence quite concretely as tangibl objects that we flew . . . after having been taught how to build them by “ET’s” as well as our own reverse engineering efforts.
Skepticism has a rapidly decreasing half-life in this field, if the upturn in frequency and dramatic quality of sightings the last year are any clue.
It appears that you have also not investigated the Stephenville TX sighting recently to any serious degree, either. Linda Moulton Howe’s site:
is a good place to start on that score.
Of course, learning tends to require an open mind unsquealched by overwhelming, rigid bias.
Kind of makes you wonder why we're spending billions at NASA trying to get back to the moon with chemical rockets when we can just build flying saucers...
An ATS THREAD:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread332180/pg1&addstar=1&on=3973294#pid3973294
RE HARRASSMENT of a Stephenville observer by officials.
Source link:
http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/02/03/news/news02.txt
Excerts:
Sorrells believes military officials have been harassing him by flying military aircraft over his property at low altitudes, at all hours of the day and night. Sorrells runs livestock on his place and said the cattle don’t react well to the disturbances. It’s also been hard to get any sleep.
Sorrells made international news along with other witnesses on Jan. 14 after the Associated Press contacted him for his story and took video of the exact spot the UFO was seen along with Sorrells’ description of the object.
Not just once, but four times, he claims to have seen the massive flying object he estimates to be the length of “three or four football fields.” He said he’s not sure about the size because the first time he saw it was the best view. At that time, the craft hovered directly over him in the woods about 300 feet above his head and his view was blocked by tree branches.
“I don’t know why it keeps coming back here,” Sorrells said.
He’s convinced that someone representing himself as a Lt. Colonel knows what it is — and Sorrells wants an explanation.
He said the man contacted him by telephone on Jan. 15, one day after his interview with the Associated Press.
“I didn’t worry about writing his name down or taking notes,” Sorrells said. “I didn’t know what was about to happen. But, I think he said he was with the Air Force.”
Sorrells said the conversation started out nice enough.
“He was sort of nice to me right off,” Sorrells said. “He asked to come and talk to me.”
Sorrells said he told the man that he needed time to think about it and then, “He (the man) became really arrogant.”
The caller told Sorrells he wasn’t taking “no” for an answer and would be out to talk to him. Sorrells again tried to politely tell the man he did not wish to have company.
After that, Sorrells said the conversation became heated and he told the man not to cross his cattle guard.
Sorrells said the man responded with, “ Son, we have the same caliber weapons as you do but a lot more of them.”
Looking back, Sorrells said he believes the man was in his area but not able to pinpoint exactly where he lived because he recently built a new home.
“I actually got up and looked out my window to see if I could see someone at the cattle guard. So I said if he was who he said he was, why didn’t he stop flying over my air space with all those helicopters,” Sorrells said. “And he informed me that it was not my air space — it was his. He told me if I’d quit talking about what I saw he would stop the helicopters.”
Sorrells said since that conversation, the helicopters have quit flying over his property but the F-16s haven’t slowed.
Before the conversation took place with the suspected military officer Sorrells related a late night experience with a large transport helicopter and three smaller helicopters.
“I get up at 2:30 a.m. to go to work and these helicopters kept flying over and I couldn’t sleep,” Sorrells said. “Because it was about time to get up and go to work, I just got up and went outside to see what I could.”
Sorrells said he has a spotlight on his pickup that he uses to look for coyotes.
“I went to my truck and turned on the spotlight and shined it up at them,” Sorrells said. “It was so close, I could see the pilot’s reaction. He threw up his arm to block the light. He was in one of the smaller helicopters.
“Then he turned toward me and I still have the light on. I started to feel uncomfortable so I turned off the light and waved and went back inside. I was thinking I had pushed the envelope.”
To top that off, Sorrells said an acquaintance, whom he would not name, and formerly a member of the military, told him, “You need to shut your mouth about what you saw.”
Sorrells said he tried to pull the man aside and asked him to explain his statement.
“He just kept saying the same thing and wouldn’t explain,” Sorrells said. “ Now he won’t speak to me.”
Sorrells said because the helicopters disappeared, he now feels the gentlemen was actually a member of the military, and was high enough in rank that he was able to stop that type of air traffic.
“If it is a military craft the American people need to know,” Sorrells said. “A lot of people have seen things around here. I know what I saw and so do they.”
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Additional source link:
http://www.empiretribune.com/articles/2008/02/04/news/news01.txt
LAST half or so of article:
He said the last time he saw the object he was able to get a video on his camera phone and said he has seen some other “pretty good footage” taken by others.
One night Sorrells said he had four helicopters flying at such low altitude that when a spotlight was shined up at them from Sorrells’ pickup he could see the pilot throw his arm up in front of his eyes to block the light. But there has been another strange occurrence recently on his property that leads him to believe the military is involved. It was an unexpected visitor about 1 a.m. who may have left something behind.
“I was in bed asleep,” Sorrells said. “I keep my bird dogs on the east side of my house and three others on the west side. The black lab doesn’t bark until someone comes across the cattle guard and the Catahoula doesn’t bark until she actually sees someone. They were all barking so I got up to see what was going on.”
Sorrells said he walked to his bedroom window and looked out to the top of his driveway - he saw someone.
“I went around the bed and grabbed my rifle,” Sorrells said.
His family was still sleeping, so with one hand on his gun and one hand on his backdoor knob, he peered through the window of the door to see if he could spot the intruder again.
“He had positioned himself in between the car and the pickup 40 to 50 feet from my back door,” Sorrells said. “He stood staring at me rocking back and forth. I didn’t think his feet were moving but the next morning when looking at his tracks I could tell they were.”
Sorrels said it was cold and misting rain and it was obvious the guy was “dressed for the elements with a heavy parka-like coat.”
He said he strained to see if the man carried a gun but could not see one but could clearly see the face of someone he thought to be in his late 20s or early 30s judging from the way he “walked and acted.”
“I’m trying to decide whether or not to open the door,” Sorrells said. “We’re just standing there face to face looking at each other. I’m thinking he’s dressed for the elements and the dogs are raising such a ruckus he must know he’s in danger of being caught. That’s when I realized he wanted me to see him.”
Sorrells said the trespasser had positioned himself in such a way he decided he could be vulnerable if opened his door. He thought of his family and then the man slowly turned and walked into the woods.
“He walked through an area where I’d cleared the brush so apparently he’d been there before because he knew where to go,” Sorrells said.
Sorrells said shortly after the unwelcome caller disappeared the dogs calmed down and he stayed up the rest of the night to keep watch.
Later, when walking through the woods on his property with Howe, he decided to return to a bare spot where his property line ends at a fence.
“It is washed out there and I like to go there to look for deer and turkey tracks.” Sorrells said. He said he’s an avid hunter and keeps abreast of the wildlife on his place. He said he had not been to this particular spot in about a month.
“The first thing I saw was a man’s footprint,” Sorrells said. “Ms. Howe videotaped me putting my foot beside it. The sun was going down and I saw something shiny.”
Sorrells said he walked over and picked up a bullet - a shiny new 25-06 Remington - with some dotted tarnished smudges.
“I think the man that I saw that night dropped this bullet and the tarnished spots are from the misting rain that night,” Sorrells said. “ I just think it was the military showing me they could get to me if they wanted to.”
Sorrells said he just doesn’t think a hunter poaching on his property would’ve dropped the bullet. He said he doesn’t have trouble with poachers. While he knows there is no way to prove it could have been from the same man it’s something he keeps mulling over. Sorrells returned home with the bullet in hand and took it apart to look at the powder to see if he could glean any information at all. A local gun and ammunition authority said there was no way to identify if such a bullet was from a military source.
“Talking about military powder is like talking about military gasoline,” he said. “There is no difference.”
Meanwhile, Sorrells said he and other witnesses are considering setting up a Web site to encourage people to do what they can to influence government participation in finding out about the curious, sometimes frightening, sightings.
“I’ve heard that other countries are releasing information on what they know,” Sorrells said. “We’re thinking of calling it (the site) ‘Stephenville Lights.’ Too many people have seen something not to try and continue finding out about it. We want to know what it was.”
Doesn’t make me wonder at all.
We have a LOT of very expensive SMOKE SCREENS that have killed a lot of people going on.
AN ENORMOUS LOT of what SEEMS to be the case in our public and not so public national life
is very different from TRUE REALITIES.
As the retiring head of LOCKEED SKUNK WORKS SAID:
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT, WE CAN ALREADY DO IT.
IMHO the funniest SNL skit ever:
Exorcist II (with Richard Pryor)
[ Father Merrin and Father Karras enter Regan’s room and find her lying on her bed, possessed with evil spirits ]
Father Merrin: We have nothing to worry about.
Father Karras: [ trying to convince himself ] Nothing to worry about.
Father Merrin: Let’s talk to the child.
Father Karras: Yes, let’s talk to the child.
[ Father Merrin leans against Regan, who breathes heavily onto him, sending both priests reeling back ]
Father Merrin: You mustn’t listen to anything she has to say.
Father Karras: [ scared ] I’m not listening!
Regan: [ menacing ] You’re a liar, and a cheater, and a child molester! You french-kiss your dog in the mouth! [ the bed starts to rise ]
Father Merrin: Stop the bed!
Father Karras: [ repeating ] Stop the bed!
Father Merrin: The bed.. must be.. on the floor!
Father Karras: The bed.. must be.. on the floor!
Father Merrin: The bed.. must be.. on the floor!
Father Karras: The bed.. must be.. on the floor!
Father Merrin: The bed.. must be.. on the floor!
[ bed lands on top of Father Karras’ foor ]
Father Karras: [ screaming in agony ] The bed.. is on.. my foot! The bed.. is on.. my foot! The bed.. is on.. my foot..! Oh, Father, the bed.. is on.. my foot!
Father Merrin: [ getting weak, stops exorcising ] You must continue, Father. I must rest.. [ exits bedroom ]
Father Karras: [ on floor in pain ] You must rest?! The bed.. is on.. my foot!
Regan: [ parting from trance ] Oh, Father Karras, I’m ever so hungry. Couldn’t you give me some pea soup? It’s right over there.
Father Karras: [ still in pain ] The bed.. is on.. my foot!
Regan: Oh, jeepers, I’m sorry.. [ makes bed lift off of Father Karras’ foot ]
Father Karras: Oh, thank you, little girl.. [ relieved ] You’re such a nice little girl, I knew it all the time. Here’s your pea soup. [ hands her the soup ] Maybe now we can be friends? What do you say? [ Regan tosses the soup in his face ]
Regan: [ menacing ] Suck-er!
Father Karras: [ stunned ]
Regan: Oh, Father Karras, I’m ever so sorry. Let’s make up. [ reaches for vase on the nightstand ] Here, have a flower. [ holds flower to him ]
Father Karras: Oh, what a sweet gesture. You’re a sweet little girl. [ Regan smashes the vase over his head ]
Regan: [ meanacing ] Jive tur-key!
Father Karras: [ to himself ] I have faith. I have faith. [ turns to Regan ] You’re such a little girl..
Regan: [ menacing ] Your mother eats kitty litter!
Father Karras: [ not sure he heard what he heard ] Say what?
Regan: [ menacing ] Your mama eats kitty litter!
Father Karras: [ lunges for Regan’s throat ] Hey, nobody talks about my Mama! [ chokes Regan ]
Father Merrin: [ rushing in ] Father! What are you doing? She’s just an innocent little girl!
Father Karras: She’s talking about my Mama!
Regan: [ waking up ] Oh, Father! Thank goodness you’re here! He was hurting me!
Father Merrin: [ comforting ] Yes.
Father Karras: [ upset ] I’m gonna kill you, if you say anything about my Mama!
Father Merrin: She’s just an innocent child.
Regan: [ menacing ] Your mama sews socks that smell!
Father Merrin: Uh, what did you say, little girl?
Regan: [ menacing ] Your mama sews socks.. that smell!
[ Father Merrin immediate chokes Regan’s throat ]
Father Karras: [ grabbing Father Merrin’s shoulders ] Father, Father, Father, please! Let me help you!
[ Father Merrin and Father Karras both choke Regan as the scene ends ]
I see...it’s all part of The Conspiracy. So who’s behind it? The Illuminati? The Freemasons? The Discordians? Cthulhu?
Take your pick.
A ball of snakes from any perspective.
But go ahead. Feel free to disbelieve. Whatever comfort disbelief may afford has an increasingly brief half life.
I mentioned this already, but the History Channel had a very interesting program regarding UFO’s and Wright Field (Now Wright Patterson) in Ohio, and Hangar 18, where it’s believed they take or took crashed UFO’s such as the one in Roswell. The people who worked there seem perfectly normal and just like any one of us, and they sure believed it. One was a secretary or clerk who worked there and she was very convincing. I’d recommend that show to anyone. I don’t believe UFO’s are people from outer space, particularly, but from governments (especially ours).
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