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To: raygunfan

“why are there no protests counter to the concept during that time period?”

How do you know this? If true perhaps the “Church” kept The Bible away from the ignorant masses. It was probably hard to form a protest when The Bible wasn’t read by very many people. You’re talking about a time when printing wasn’t invented. Maybe people didn’t care (much like today). Maybe the few people who had access to the Bible and didn’t agree with “Purgatory” were killed as heretics. Dead people don’t write history.

I disagree that there are “constant allusions” to it. Maybe I’m wrong but your first and only example was very weak. Do you have another example from the Bible? Where in The Good Book does it state that Jesus does not fully redeem believers and that additional punishment is required before acceptance to heaven? Is there a list of sins that guarantees entrance to “Purgatory” and if so where is it located?

“(i know, you folks dont use that book, etc),”

I’m just a big cat who reads The Bible, no “folks” here.

“and no, it wouldnt land you in purgatory, unless, you do not die in a state of grace.”

Yes, accepting Christ puts humans in a state of grace! That’s a huge point. Therefore there is no need for a “Purgatory”. Conversely, if there was a “Purgatory” there would be no need for Jesus Christ.

I don’t think we’ll agree on this concept but fortunately it’s probably just a side issue. God Bless you!


97 posted on 02/13/2008 8:32:40 PM PST by bigcat32
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To: bigcat32

see, now you’re reaching....that is such an old excuse, ‘well maybe the church hid that protest away’....for over a thousand plus years to the reformation?????

you have to do better than that...

the church nver kept the bible away from anyone, in fact, it preserved it, painstakenly reproducing it by hand for generations....

accepting Christ doesnt put you in a state of grace for the rest of you life....the moment you sin, you lose that grace, hence when you die, you are not in a perfect state, so you need to have those last left over moments of selfish sin removed, before entering heaven.


98 posted on 02/14/2008 5:26:28 AM PST by raygunfan
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