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Defining Evangelicalism Down
Townhall.com ^ | 2/12/08 | Paul Edwards

Posted on 02/14/2008 4:28:15 PM PST by Terriergal

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1 posted on 02/14/2008 4:28:17 PM PST by Terriergal
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To: HarleyD; TommyDale; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; shaggy eel; jumpdrive; Calvert Cliffs Cafe; Cyrano; ...

An EXCELLENT piece that sheds more light on this issue and why the religious left, as ‘permissive’ as it seems, in reality is preaching LAW not the gospel. A law they themselves do not fulfill either!

Good Advice vs. Good News
http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/The_White_Horse_Inn/archives.asp?bcd=2008-2-10


2 posted on 02/14/2008 4:30:26 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Folks who focus on man rather than God will be led astray to think as Warren does. Yes, we are to reach out with food, etc. AND the Gospel, but always keep our main focus on Christ else we be led off the narrow way.

My church has shed Purpose Driven madness for a local version of the same illness of looking to change the world - we’re “people driven!” And I am going to meet with the elders next month to explain this to them and request a meeting before the church if need be.


3 posted on 02/14/2008 4:43:39 PM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Terriergal

Simply impossible to be an Evangelical and a leftwingtard ~ the mind doesn’t work that way.


4 posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Terriergal
Jesus never spoke against abortion or homosexual marriage.

Jesus spoke against Adultery and sexual immorality. And I kind of doubt they were doing millions of abortions back in 30 AD.

5 posted on 02/14/2008 4:48:21 PM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Terriergal

What a great telecast. So right on. I hope people will take the time to listen.


7 posted on 02/14/2008 5:33:52 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Terriergal

When we start defining “evangelical” or “fundamentalist” or “born-again” or “christian” to meaning social intitatives or social positions instead of meaning “Bible Believing/Gospel Preaching/Conservative Theological Belief” then those definitions become meaningless. Instead a person should define their faith in terms of the Bible-and “Real (see Literal) belief” in Christ and His Words, and then let their political positions be guided by their faith (and their beliefs).


8 posted on 02/14/2008 5:37:19 PM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: farmer18th

“Conservatives who vote for McCain are like abused dogs whom keep licking ~their own dried blood from~ their master’s hand”: THERE FIXED IT!!!


9 posted on 02/14/2008 5:39:01 PM PST by JSDude1 (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56306 "MoveON McCain" To find McCain's Sorros)
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To: muawiyah

You would think... except that in the Emergent Church/postmodern church, the rule of noncontradiction does not apply. You can’t tell them A cannot equal NOT-A in the same time and same circumstances. They talk about quantum physics to try and justify their complete lack of rationality.


10 posted on 02/14/2008 8:25:28 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Keep us posted!

People driven. Great. Seeking the acclaim of men/social gospel.


11 posted on 02/14/2008 8:26:13 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Always Right

Yup.

Though they were doing infanticide, and the church was of course the only ones who tried to save these tossed-out babies.


12 posted on 02/14/2008 8:27:30 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

It;s always bugged me that if one is christian and conservative, one is labeld “evangelical.” As if no one ever actually looked up the meaning of the word.


13 posted on 02/14/2008 8:28:33 PM PST by Grunthor (Conservative in voluntary exile since 2006.)
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To: farmer18th

I think you’re right except on John Macarthur.

We are not called to transform culture. We are called to preach the gospel. Macarthur has not budged on that.


14 posted on 02/14/2008 8:28:34 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: farmer18th

Oh... the booklet on why government can’t save you — Yeah that was one of the things he’s written that I disagreed with. I agree with the title but the way he wrote it suggested that resisting oppression is always wrong. I agree with you there.

But that’s different than the ‘social gospel’ dominionist agenda of using Christ to transform culture.


15 posted on 02/14/2008 8:31:45 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: HarleyD

Yep! So many people don’t understand why we loathe the message of Joel Osteen and Rick Warren etc... because it’s ALL LAW and NO GOSPEL!

I’m sure they never even think of it that way because what it does is substitute man’s law (a certain kind of conformity or niceness) for God’s law. Truth be told, we can’t even fulfill man’s law! Their messages are completely devoid of hope because they contain no gospel, no proclamation of how our debt is paid, which results in being spared the wrath of God, if we will repent and trust in Christ!


16 posted on 02/14/2008 8:34:26 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
The Apostate evangelical church is growing..
A Nicolaitan pop culture of feel good ethics..
Rick Warren is merely a headliner in the Donkey Rodeo....
17 posted on 02/14/2008 8:35:38 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: JSDude1

I hear ya.

Here’s one for you:
Reading the Bible Again For the First Time: Taking the Bible Seriously But Not Literally
by Marcus J. Borg
http://www.amazon.com/Reading-Bible-Again-First-Time/dp/0060609192


18 posted on 02/14/2008 8:35:58 PM PST by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Always Right

But He did say the final judgement of nations would be whether they fed the hungry, clothed the poor, took in people they didn’t know who needed a home, cared for the sick and minstered to those in prison.


19 posted on 02/14/2008 8:39:09 PM PST by norge
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Oh... the booklet on why government can’t save you

Bingo. He's also preached sermons advocating that Christians abjectly obey Hitler, Stalin, whatever authority figure you can imagine, no matter how evil. He even said this "free republic" we enjoy was founded by men who were disobedient to God.

I know that a lot of his interpretation is pretty, sound, which is why this heresy is so damaging. He would have been a good jew-killing Nazi Lutheran.
20 posted on 02/14/2008 9:45:39 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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