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All Roads Lead To Rome (A Southern Baptist's Journey into the Catholic Church)
Confiteordeo ^ | John David Young

Posted on 02/19/2008 11:55:18 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

That is one incredible book. Opened my eyes and my heart.


61 posted on 02/19/2008 4:34:51 PM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: Tax-chick
I hear you, thanks ... and while I have concerns about the sort of practical "omniscience" that appears to be assigned to created beings under that line of thinking, it definitely helps to answer my question ... which was, how do Catholics explain this?
62 posted on 02/19/2008 4:36:34 PM PST by Oliver Optic
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To: allmendream; Terabitten
I don’t know..... which one is a better shot?

LOL -- Now that's funny!!!

63 posted on 02/19/2008 4:39:48 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: WileyPink; GambrillsGuy; 50mm; Elvina; ConservativeTrucker; SavannahJake; PaulZe; AKA Elena; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Don't pray for me to your gods and mary and your pope or your dead saints! In my opinion, the catholic church is of Satan and the pope is the antichrist. Tell you what, while you're at it, why not sprinkle some water on me. I sure that will do as much good as praying for me to the dead gods and people that you are praying to.
Pray for Wiley!
64 posted on 02/19/2008 4:42:08 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Uncle Chip
To me it is like picking a President. Who cares what he thinks about the immaterial? I want to know his policy positions.

In the fox hole I want to know “Is he a good shot?” “Does he keep his head under fire?”

65 posted on 02/19/2008 4:44:44 PM PST by allmendream ("A Lyger is pretty much my favorite animal."NapoleonD)
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To: Oliver Optic
my question ... which was, how do Catholics explain this?

It's a reasonable question, and you've got some answers now :-). The spiritual life is a mystery in many ways, but we all have explanations that work for us, intellectually.

66 posted on 02/19/2008 4:46:38 PM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be a lemur!)
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To: NYer
After all, "everyone knows" that Catholics are forbidden to read the Bible, right?!

That certainly is a myth. My Bible is sitting on a table just beside me. California Catholic
67 posted on 02/19/2008 5:01:44 PM PST by gpapa (Kill the terrorists, protect the borders, punch the hippies)
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To: WileyPink

Have you ever attended a Mass?


68 posted on 02/19/2008 5:09:18 PM PST by gpapa (Kill the terrorists, protect the borders, punch the hippies)
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To: Campion

“Contrast this to certain persons of the Protestant fundamentalist persuasion who have previously announced on this board that Mary was not really Jesus’ mother. It is a tiny little step from there to a complete denial of the Incarnation.”

Whoa...........! I’d like to see that with my own eyes.

(Don’t got to any trouble.)


69 posted on 02/19/2008 5:11:29 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Alex Murphy; ArrogantBustard

“They were praying for me too, Wiley. Now they just send me hate-mail.”

We still pray for you too Alex. Your bigotry sometimes causes some folks to lose their cool, but that happens when folks spew bigotry and hatred. We are supposed to turn the other cheek, but the fallen nature of man sometimes wins out.

I will note that dragging your complaints from thread to thread is a violation of the TOS for this site. You might not be aware of that, but it is a fact.


70 posted on 02/19/2008 5:19:57 PM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

I think another “dissenter” on this thread needs to be made aware of that. I’ve been asked to refrain from communicating with him, so someone else has to do it.


71 posted on 02/19/2008 5:28:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: WileyPink

Here are some more Versions of the Bible.

The Latin Vulgate (390-405).
The Douay-Rheims Version (1582-1610).
The Challoner-Rheims Version (1749-1777).
The Confraternity Version of the New Testament (1941).
The Knox Translation (1955). Only the New Testament was approved.
The Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (1965).
The Jerusalem Bible (1966).
The New American Bible (1970-1983).
The New Jerusalem Bible (1985).

Other versions of the Bible:
GREEK: Septuagint; Aquila; Theodotion; Symmachus; other versions.
VERSIONS FROM THE SEPTUAGINT: Vetus Itala or Old Latin; Egyptian or Coptic (Bohairic, Sahidic, Akhmimic, and Fayûmic, i.e. Middle Egyptian or Bashmuric); Ethiopic and Amharic (Falasha, Galla); Gothic; Georgian or Grusian; Syriac; Slavic (Old Slavonic, Russian, Ruthenian, Polish, Czech or Bohemian, Slovak, Serbian or Illyrian, Croation, Bosnian, Dalmatian); Arabic; Armenian.
VERSIONS FROM THE HEBREW: Chaldaic; Syriac (Peschitto); Arabic (Carshuni); Persian; Samaritan Pentateuch; Vulgate; other Latin versions.
HEBREW VERSIONS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
VERSIONS FROM MIXED SOURCES: Italian; Spanish; Basque; Portuguese; French; German; Dutch and Flemish; Scandinavian (Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Icelandic); Finnish (Estonian, Laplandish); Hungarian; Celtic (Irish, Scottish, Breton or Armoric, Welsh or Cymric).
MISCELLANEOUS: Aleutian; Aniwa; Aneitumese; Battak; Benga; Bengali; Chinese; Gipsy or Romany; Hindu; Hindustani; Japanese; Javanese; Mexican; Modern Greek.

English Versions:
(1) St. Bede’s translation of John, i, 1-vi, 9; (2) interlinear glosses on the Psalms; (3) the Paris Psalter; (4) the so-called Lindisfarne Gospels; (5) the Rushworth version; (6) the West-Saxon Gospels; (7) Ælfric’s version of a number of Old-Testament books.


72 posted on 02/19/2008 5:31:20 PM PST by gpapa (Kill the terrorists, protect the borders, punch the hippies)
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To: rbmillerjr

You are so welcome. I save them and post the links just so that they are available for someone to read. Others who aren’t interested, usually go their own way. LOL!


73 posted on 02/19/2008 5:32:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Alex Murphy
We are all praying for you, Wiley!

They were praying for me too, Wiley. Now they just send me hate-mail.


Actually, Alex, is wasn't all that long ago that I posted: I like Alex. He posts the good, the bad, and the ugly. Ilike it because he doesn't simply post the ugly. That's a good thing.

And I still hold true to that opinion.

So please don't generalize...

75 posted on 02/19/2008 5:36:43 PM PST by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: wagglebee

Agree with your last sentence here. I still maintain that prayers are needed.


76 posted on 02/19/2008 5:38:41 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Oliver Optic


77 posted on 02/19/2008 5:39:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
However, in all of our debates, I have NEVER seen any of them use the type of rhetoric I see here, because if I did, I would have a very difficult time even being cordial with them on other threads.

You jumped on this wagon. Next time, don't!

You and your kind are not cordial to me now, why should this change anything?

Acts 18:9 Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:
10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.

In Christ...Alone!

78 posted on 02/19/2008 5:41:06 PM PST by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: Terabitten

Excellent question. I wonder how people felt in the same foxhole with John F. Kennedy and numberous other Catholics.


79 posted on 02/19/2008 5:42:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
And what is the source of this opinion?

It certainly is not from some guy in a funny looking hat!

In Christ...Alone!

80 posted on 02/19/2008 5:43:26 PM PST by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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