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To: papertyger
It's too bad that most Catholics (including you) confuse this with total Biblical inerrancy and feel that in order to be loyal to their church, they must hold the Word of G-d to be full of errors and contradictions.

How so?

::Sigh:: I am sorry someone from the prestigious class of '98 has to ask that here.

Since joining FR in '99 I have argued with Catholics that the Bible is totally inerrant on all subjects. The vast majority of Catholic FReepers disagree with this (as a matter of fact, most Catholic FReepers are evolutionists).

Please note that I have not argued for sola scriptura. I myself reject sola scriptura and have access to an authoritative oral interpretive tradition. But most Catholics not only reject sola scriptura, but total inerrancy as well. Most subscribe to a sort of "partial inerrancy" in which the Bible is inerrant in matters of "faith and morals" but not on other topics.

Why don't you ask your co-religionists here about this? I'll be glad to provide you with names of Catholic errantists/evolutionists if you're interested.

98 posted on 02/19/2008 6:29:35 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem, HaShem, Qel Rachum veChanun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Why don't you ask your co-religionists here about this?

Because you made the statement, and I'm not aware of any official Church pronouncement regarding such an understanding.

I would not countenance gratuitious assertions about your theology predicated on untraceable anecdotes; I'd like a substantive explaination on why you've done so with mine.

104 posted on 02/19/2008 6:50:31 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The vast majority of Catholic FReepers disagree with this (as a matter of fact, most Catholic FReepers are evolutionists).

Whoa, Nelly. Try that again, this time accurately: The vast majority of Catholic FReepers believe that God directs evolution, i.e. we believe in Intelligent Design as hypothesized by those legitimate scientists who see that evolution has clearlly occured throughout the Earth's natural history, but believe that "chance" or Darwinian evolution is impossible, and that all creation seems to show the guiding hand of a creator.

If you're saying the vast majority of Catholics reject the totally scientifically unsupported Young Earth silliness that uneducated folks have insinuated into, and therefore severely harmed, the Intelligent Design movement, you're darn right we do. God, in his Almighty wisdom, gave us brains and wants us to use them, and, I would hazard to guess, not to build museums in which Adam and Eve hang out with T. Rex

But what really amazes me and saddens me is that before I joined FR, I truly believed that Catholics and Fundamentalists were compatible. Now I see that Fundamentalists see Catholics as useful idiots to be used in the political process and then consigned to hell as worshippers of a Satan-driven Church. I suppose you could say, therefore, that being on FR has made me more liberal. Like the left-wing, I now wouldn't vote for a Fundamentalist for any reason, but unlike the left-wing, I started out in your corner and you drove me away. I am sure there are some wonderful Fundamentalists on this site who can convince me I'm wrong, but the constant bigotry of folks like the usual suspects (who have, naturally, already posted in this thread), has made me want to steer very clear of the whole movement.

112 posted on 02/19/2008 7:15:58 PM PST by cammie
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