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To: Uncle Chip

Christ died once for all. We agree with you 100% on that. But there is a distinction we are making between the bloody sacrifice of Calvary and the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass.

In other words, Catholic teaching holds that the sacrifice and the victim is the same—it is only the manner of offering that changes. And that is what Paul is getting at when he says that Christ “is a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek”.

He is a priest forever because His sacrifice of Himself continues forever—but it is not a crucifixion again, it is the Melchizedek style of sacrifice—the offering of bread and wine.

Incidentally, as you mentioned Passover...many scholars believe that Christ refused the fourth cup of the Passover meal—”until I am come into my kingdom”. He took the cup, effectively, on the cross right before he died—that’s really when that Passover ended for him—”it is finished”. So the Last Supper and Calvary were all part of His Passover. They were fused into one act for Him, and they are fused into one act for us as well.


56 posted on 02/21/2008 8:17:55 AM PST by Claud
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To: Claud
Incidentally, as you mentioned Passover...many scholars believe that Christ refused the fourth cup of the Passover meal—”until I am come into my kingdom”. He took the cup, effectively, on the cross right before he died—that’s really when that Passover ended for him—”it is finished”. So the Last Supper and Calvary were all part of His Passover. They were fused into one act for Him, and they are fused into one act for us as well.

Ping for later. Thanks, Claud.

57 posted on 02/21/2008 8:19:58 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: Claud
Christ died once for all. We agree with you 100% on that. But there is a distinction we are making between the bloody sacrifice of Calvary and the unbloody sacrifice of the Mass.

If the bloody sacrifice paid the full price for the forgiveness of sins, then just why is an unbloody sacrifice necessary at all????

And how can an unbloody one be efficacious for anything since scripture tells us that "without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins". An unbloody sacrifice is not a sacrifice at all.

Where does it say that a bloody one needs to be followed up with unbloody ones ????

63 posted on 02/21/2008 8:42:21 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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