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To: Rutles4Ever; Claud
The components are present (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), but the cottage industry of heresy revolving exactly around the essence and composition of the Trinity demonstrates that Scripture itself does not explicitly convey the consubstantial nature of the Three Persons, sharing One and the same Substance.

Maybe, if we don't see an explanation it's best not to build a doctrine/dogma around it. I think it's clear there are some things that are way beyond our abilities.

363 posted on 02/29/2008 11:15:08 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights

So then you’re going to stop believing in the Trinity? You’re also going to have to throw out the hypostatic union - i.e., Jesus is both man and God.

There are most definitely matters we have to simply take on faith (de fide), I agree! But that which we take on faith requires a definition, because we can’t believe in something that isn’t defined in some way - even if assent to that definition requires faith and not human logic.

We will never - not even in heaven - understand God totally, but that shouldn’t stop us from trying to get to know Him.


364 posted on 02/29/2008 11:21:38 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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