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To: MarkBsnr; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; Lord_Calvinus; Gamecock; ...
Did the faithful Jews of the old covenant believe their male children were members of God's family and entitled to the covenant promises according to circumcision?

Certainly, and now those privileges have been extended to all children of God's family in the new covenant.

No one knows for certain the eternal destiny of anyone except themselves. Isaac had both Jacob whom God loved and Esau whom god hated. Adam and Eve had both Cain and Abel.

Mercifully, we have Christ's promise that the child of a believing parent is most likely among God's family since it is God who gives us our children. Parents have a Godly responsibility to bring up their children in a solid and loving Christian household. And thus we have faith that our children will grow up and believe and glorify God by their lives...

"For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy." -- 1 Corinthians 7:14

Any more certainty than that is beyond ours to have. We live by faith.

So save all your smarmy quips, Mark, since that appears to be all you have to add to these discussions. I would urge you to read the Bible and work towards a better defense of your position than witless name-calling.

489 posted on 03/01/2008 12:30:07 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; MarkBsnr; Manfred the Wonder Dawg; wmfights; 1000 silverlings; Lord_Calvinus; ...
Mercifully, we have Christ's promise that the child of a believing parent is most likely among God's family since it is God who gives us our children.

Great point Dr.E.!

Let me throw the wrench in the works. ;-0

Did the faithful Jews of the old covenant believe their male children were members of God's family and entitled to the covenant promises according to circumcision?

Apparently this is what infant baptism has replaced. As parents our greatest concerns are about our children. It would be natural for us to want to insure their salvation, but the truth is it's not in our hands. It's in God's hands.

510 posted on 03/01/2008 7:41:27 AM PST by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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