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That Martin Luther? He Wasn’t So Bad, Says Pope
Times Online (London) ^
| March 6, 2008
| Richard Owen
Posted on 03/05/2008 8:13:07 PM PST by Dajjal
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posted on
03/05/2008 8:13:07 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Pyro7480; narses; NYer; Salvation
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posted on
03/05/2008 8:14:11 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Petronski
Thought you might be interested. Pope Benedict must have heard me. ;-)
I'm guessing there is a big difference between talking nice about Martin Luther and actually lifting a papal bull (if that is even possible).
To: CommerceComet
I don’t know why they think this will unify Christians who have fundamental differences in core doctrines of Christianity. It is not going to bring about genuine unity, but a false unity.
I am glad they have come around on their thinking. The fact is though, Martin Luther did the right thing splitting from the Catholic Church, it is a Christian thing to do if those in error will not turn away from their errors. You must separate yourselves from those that will not turn away from error.
This statement says nothing about the Catholic church turning away from their doctrinal errors. And that is something they will never admit nor do. So it will still be correct to remain separated from them.
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To: Dajjal
"Pope will argue that Luther, who was excommunicated and condemned for heresy, was not a heretic."
Saying he isn't a heretic is a long way from accepting his doctrine. I don't expect to see the Pope embracing "Bondage of the Will" anytime soon.
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posted on
03/05/2008 8:41:42 PM PST
by
joebuck
(Finitum non capax infinitum!)
To: lightman
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posted on
03/05/2008 8:49:50 PM PST
by
SmithL
(That's my story & I'm sticking to it!)
To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Frumanchu
Pope Benedict XVI is to rehabilitate Martin Luther, arguing that he did not intend to split Christianity but only to purge the Church of corrupt practices. Pope Benedict will issue his findings on Luther (1483-1546) in September after discussing him at his annual seminar of 40 fellow theologians known as the Ratzinger Schülerkreis at Castelgandolfo, the papal summer residence. According to Vatican insiders the Pope will argue that Luther, who was excommunicated and condemned for heresy, was not a heretic.
Did you read this?
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posted on
03/05/2008 9:16:53 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
To: joebuck; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock
I don't expect to see the Pope embracing "Bondage of the Will" anytime soon.I don't expect to see the Pope embracing "Bondage of the Will" Scriptural Truth anytime soon.
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posted on
03/05/2008 9:20:13 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Dajjal
My God! How can one be calm when one hears such blasphemous lies uttered against the mysteries of Christ? How can one without resentment listen to such outrageous insults hurled against God's priests? Who can even read such blasphemies without weeping from sheer grief if he still retains in his heart even the smallest spark of Christian piety?
Trusting therefore in the goodness of our Lord we will in our turn try to launch three attacks against Luther by which as with a sponge we hope to wipe away all the filthy and blasphemous things that have proceeded from his mouth against priests.
-St. John Fisher, on Luther's The Abrogation of the Mass
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posted on
03/05/2008 9:32:03 PM PST
by
Pyro7480
("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
To: Pyro7480
Hmmm ... not very ecumenical.
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posted on
03/05/2008 9:38:31 PM PST
by
Dajjal
To: Dajjal
This is pretty funny, as a lot of the rip-roaring Romanists’ arguments will evaporate when the center of their authority changes his mind....
Seems to me there are many of them who post on FR who would want to argue with their pope on this, but oops, can’t do that!
To: Alex Murphy; Gamecock; HarleyD; Frumanchu; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; topcat54; wmfights
Bennie's just trying to soften the antithesis. All those who are justified by faith are still anathematized.
If and when Ben wants to lift the anathema, he knows where to find Bible-believing Christians -- anywhere but Rome.
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posted on
03/05/2008 11:16:33 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: AnalogReigns
lol.
Whichever way the spin blows.
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posted on
03/05/2008 11:19:18 PM PST
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
he knows where to find Bible-believing Christians -- anywhere but RomeWell there are a few in Rome:
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posted on
03/05/2008 11:21:27 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I wonder just what Jesus is thinking when he sees many of the comments written on this board.
“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, thy whole mind and they whole soul.
AND THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.”
So, why all the hate?
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posted on
03/05/2008 11:29:11 PM PST
by
CdMGuy
To: Dajjal
One German sticking up for another. ;)
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posted on
03/05/2008 11:59:34 PM PST
by
iowamark
To: Dajjal
Pope Benedict XVI is to rehabilitate Martin Luther, arguing that he did not intend to split Christianity but only to purge the Church of corrupt practices. Spare us. It's a done deal and the world is a better place for it.
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posted on
03/06/2008 12:26:06 AM PST
by
AlaskaErik
(I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
To: Dajjal
Not suprising because a fellow German is not going to bad a major figure from German history.
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posted on
03/06/2008 2:38:49 AM PST
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
To: Biggirl
Me goof, need more coffee to wake up!
It should be “bad mouth”.
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posted on
03/06/2008 2:40:02 AM PST
by
Biggirl
(A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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