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To: Grizzled Bear

If supernatural abilities makes one G-d... then, when Moses brought the 10 plagues to Egypt, you must believe that Moses is G-d.

For Moses exhibited supernatural abilities.

Face it, being able to turn the Nile into blood, or water into wine DOES NOT qualify someone to be G-d.


20 posted on 03/09/2008 9:00:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Moses really didn’t do the miracles. He was told by God what to do. Have you started my shirts yet?


25 posted on 03/09/2008 9:05:52 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: gogogodzilla

Moses who was completely incapable of any of the plagues without God working through him. No human being does anything supernatural without help from either God or the devil.

As to Jesus dying, He allowed His earthly body to be put to death. He rejoined and transformed his earthly body on Resurrection Day. At no point was God dead.


31 posted on 03/09/2008 9:45:52 PM PDT by skr (How majestic is Thy Name, O Lord, and how mighty are Thy Works!)
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To: gogogodzilla
For Moses exhibited supernatural abilities.

According to Scripture, God worked through Moses...Moses was a man, of slow speech, that was powerless without God.

66 posted on 03/10/2008 9:56:55 AM PDT by pby
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To: gogogodzilla

If works made one God and if Jesus is God, then believers are greater than God.

Jhn 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

So believers can do greater works than God?

No, but for Jesus to be God, then believers could do greater works than God, right?


95 posted on 03/10/2008 6:24:52 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: gogogodzilla
If supernatural abilities makes one G-d... then, when Moses brought the 10 plagues to Egypt, you must believe that Moses is G-d.

If you look through the Bible, you will find often miracles foster unbelief.

God followed the 10 plagues (Ex. 7:14-12:30) done on behalf of Israel with the parting of the Red Sea (Ex. 14:21-22) and the drowning of the Egyptian army (Ex. 14:26-28). Then daily for 40 years God appeared to the entire nation as a column of smoke by day and a pillar of fire by night (Ex. 13:21-22; Num. 14:14; Neh. 9:12; Ps. 105:39). The Lord kept their clothes from wearing out (Deut. 8:4), produced water out of the Rock (Ex. 17:2-6), fed the people with angele's food from heaven (Ex. 16:4-7) and brought meat on demand, literally filling their camp with quail (Num. 11:31-32; Ps. 105:40).

Yet with all this, virtually the entire nation rejected God..

Jesus did great miracles and crowds followed Him, but mostly out of selfishness. Of thousands who received His miracles, few worshiped Him. Of 10 lepers healed, only one even said thanks (Luke 17:17).

Confronted By Truth

Why would miracles lead to unbelief? Con­sider this. Ten-year-old Norman bickers with his 12-year-old brother Jack. We'll probably have left over spaghetti for lunch. Jack says, No we won't. There's none left, it's all gone. We finished it last night.

Norman: No, there's some leftovers. Jack: You're wrong, it's all gone. Norman: No, there's leftovers. Jack: Nope. We finished it. Norman: Did not. Jack: Did too. I saw mom put the rest in the garbage disposal. Norman: Do you like being wrong? Jack: I'm not wrong. You're wrong. Norman: All right, I'll just go in there and prove it.

Norman comes out of the house with a serving bowl half filled with leftover spaghetti. He shows it to his brother.

Question: Is Jack happy that he now knows the truth? Answer: No. Actually, Jack is angry. Why? Norman proved him wrong!

People do not like the truth shoved into their faces. Jack may now know that there is leftover spaghetti but he resents his brother for proving the point. These boys quarreled over a minor issue. What is the reaction when the issue becomes more significant?

Often the more serious the issue, the more a man resents those who prove him wrong.

Are you resentful tonight?

205 posted on 03/12/2008 4:19:22 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. accept no conservative substitute... it can cause cancer of the heart...)
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To: gogogodzilla
If supernatural abilities makes one G-d... then, when Moses brought the 10 plagues to Egypt, you must believe that Moses is G-d.

If you look through the Bible, you will find often miracles foster unbelief.

God followed the 10 plagues (Ex. 7:14-12:30) done on behalf of Israel with the parting of the Red Sea (Ex. 14:21-22) and the drowning of the Egyptian army (Ex. 14:26-28). Then daily for 40 years God appeared to the entire nation as a column of smoke by day and a pillar of fire by night (Ex. 13:21-22; Num. 14:14; Neh. 9:12; Ps. 105:39). The Lord kept their clothes from wearing out (Deut. 8:4), produced water out of the Rock (Ex. 17:2-6), fed the people with angele's food from heaven (Ex. 16:4-7) and brought meat on demand, literally filling their camp with quail (Num. 11:31-32; Ps. 105:40).

Yet with all this, virtually the entire nation rejected God..

Jesus did great miracles and crowds followed Him, but mostly out of selfishness. Of thousands who received His miracles, few worshiped Him. Of 10 lepers healed, only one even said thanks (Luke 17:17).

Confronted By Truth

Why would miracles lead to unbelief? Con­sider this. Ten-year-old Norman bickers with his 12-year-old brother Jack. We'll probably have left over spaghetti for lunch. Jack says, No we won't. There's none left, it's all gone. We finished it last night.

Norman: No, there's some leftovers. Jack: You're wrong, it's all gone. Norman: No, there's leftovers. Jack: Nope. We finished it. Norman: Did not. Jack: Did too. I saw mom put the rest in the garbage disposal. Norman: Do you like being wrong? Jack: I'm not wrong. You're wrong. Norman: All right, I'll just go in there and prove it.

Norman comes out of the house with a serving bowl half filled with leftover spaghetti. He shows it to his brother.

Question: Is Jack happy that he now knows the truth? Answer: No. Actually, Jack is angry. Why? Norman proved him wrong!

People do not like the truth shoved into their faces. Jack may now know that there is leftover spaghetti but he resents his brother for proving the point. These boys quarreled over a minor issue. What is the reaction when the issue becomes more significant?

Often the more serious the issue, the more a man resents those who prove him wrong.

Are you resentful tonight?

206 posted on 03/12/2008 4:21:17 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. accept no conservative substitute... it can cause cancer of the heart...)
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