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1 posted on 03/10/2008 1:04:06 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Sure, but there is no penalty for the new ones. Who is going to listen to this. Got to have some kind of discomfort or it’s just entertainment.


2 posted on 03/10/2008 1:07:30 PM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Search much?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983260/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983354/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983333/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1983235/posts


3 posted on 03/10/2008 1:09:30 PM PDT by xcamel (fairtaxers -- don't debate, Denigrate!)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Even “media skeptics” like Neal Boortz believe the MSM spin on this. As Bugs Bunny liked to say, “what a maroon!”


4 posted on 03/10/2008 1:16:22 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I still have to ask why anyone who isn’t Catholic would bother to take offense.

You don’t follow it so what’s the problem?

I don’t handle snakes and don’t care which sect does, so why is Benedict’s edict a problem for everyone else?


5 posted on 03/10/2008 1:24:03 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I have not been able to find any confirmation of this. I checked out the Vatican website. The only news about the Cardinal mentioned which involved confessions did not say anything about new sins. It was about how confession is in a crisis and how priest’s can better meet the needs of the penitent. The only actual sin mentioned was divorce and remarriage.

I never, ever rely on the news’ to report on religion. Catholic or Protestant. Also remember that the English edition of L’ Osservato Roma (sp) is only released once a week. The daily edition is in Italian, so there could very well be major blunders in translation.


15 posted on 03/10/2008 1:55:35 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Are they going to add more homunculi to Full Metal Alchemist?


17 posted on 03/10/2008 2:00:59 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
To be followed very shortly by a few more:

Voting for any democrate candidate (US Only) - punishment = you get what you deserve

Saying anything negative about Hitler-y (US Only) - punishment = you get fosterized

Saying anything negative about Ann Coulter (US Only) - punishment = eternal listening to recordings of b. clinton speeches

Thinking - even in your heart - that the catholic church needs to get a life (world wide) - punishment = eternal control of papacy by european prelates.

24 posted on 03/10/2008 2:18:48 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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To: Turret Gunner A20
The Vatican has gone to meddling again. They've decided that the original seven deadly sins just aren't enough. We need some new ones.

The writer is an ignoramus.

There are no new sins. Just new circumstances in which man's fallen nature transgresses God's law. The sin of selfishness, for instance, could be manifest on a medieval feudal manor by allowing your mule to graze on another farmer's pasture and it can be manifest today in a modern industrial society by throwing your effluent into another man's food source.

Same sin, different century.

This is a childish outburst of ignorance.

25 posted on 03/10/2008 2:29:30 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: Turret Gunner A20
NEW SINS FROM THE VATICAN

Is there any scriptual foundation for these findings?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
26 posted on 03/10/2008 2:37:12 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Judging by what I have seen online about this it looks like it is nothing more than an interview with a Bishop about sin in the modern world. Hardly an example of the Vatican actually adding new sins. And there is no list of sins to add anything to in the first place. What it comes down to is this doesn’t create any new sins, just as Bishop Mahoney has never been able to delete any.


29 posted on 03/10/2008 3:22:26 PM PDT by cothrige (Freedom and whisky gang thegither. -- Robert Burns)
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To: Turret Gunner A20; RightWhale
This story of the Vatican supposedly announcing "new sins" has been mishandled in a dozen ways by the usual MSM offenders ---the British press, e.g. the (UK)Times Online and the Daily Mirror being among the worst--- so let me pass on this response I cribbed from Mark Shea. The particular article he was reacting to was different in some minor details, but you'll get the drift:


"There is so much jumbled junk in this silly piece it's hard to know where to start.

"To begin with is the whole "rules based" approach of the author, which is fundamentally tone deaf to the fact that the faith is about relationship, not breaking rules. Off on that wrong footing, the author then makes it sound like the Vatican has added new "mortal sins" to some traditional list in order to keep up with Euro-trendiness. As is often the case, Dante somehow becomes an extension of the Magisterium (and the author even concludes with a list of official looking hellish punishments for the traditional seven deadlies, all derived from the Inferno).

" Then we discover that the "seven holy virtues" are "chastity, abstinence, temperance, diligence, patience, kindness and humility". At this point my WTF? meter goes off and I am aware that the author, with his rules-based approach to the Faith has not the slighted idea what he's talking about. His view of the Faith, like so many secular Brits, is of a regimen that's all about crushing human happiness with fasting, abstinence and celibacy. The goal of this strawman Catholicism is to transform a man into a sheep. In the Catholic world I know of, the seven virtues are prudence, justice, temperance, fortitude, faith, hope and love, which are ordered toward transforming a man into a heroic saint in imitation of Jesus Christ. The Brit media should check it out sometime.

" Anyway, the piece goes stumbling along, partly repelled by the Scary Authoritarian Catholic Church and partly enamored of what it takes to be a religious effort to conform to the Gaia-worship so popular among secular Brits. To be sure, there's always a note of cynicism at play in the piece. One gets the sense that the author imagines "the Vatican" is jumping on the Mother Earth bandwagon as part of its relentless Jesuitical scheming to insinuate itself into the good graces of the Euro-elites. In reality, of course, all "the Vatican" is doing is applying the same old moral principles of sin and virtue to contemporary situations. You shall not kill--even when the person you are killing is really small. Tend and care for the Garden of Creation--even if you are the President of a giant corporation.

" It's all so Not New. But newspapers need copy every day, so they don't let their ignorance get in the way of the stream of "information."


Bottom line: please, please don't read the MSM --- especially when they report on thir favorite bogeymen, the Evangelical Right and the Catholic Church --- without several rather large grains of salt. Fact-check before you react, just as you would (I hope) if the L.A. Times ran a front-pager on some statement from the Southern Baptist Convention. OK?
32 posted on 03/10/2008 3:44:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Oh my, are you sure some of these aren’t rules for us all by the DNC


37 posted on 03/10/2008 5:15:46 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Turret Gunner A20; Religion Moderator

There is no Catholic post listed on Zenit and I believe all these four posts are only spin.

I’ll post the seven deadly sins and the seven heavenly virtues later.

Religion Moderator — frankly, I believe this is the fourth thread on the entire forum bashing the Vatican. What is happening here?


38 posted on 03/10/2008 6:00:47 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Seen this? "Accumulating excessive wealth" and "pollution" join the ranks of "deadly sins."

The Vatican decries "accumulating excessive wealth" as a sin.

The Vatican ... says accumulating excessive wealth ... is a sin.

It just doesn't get any better than that.

43 posted on 03/10/2008 8:33:20 PM PDT by newgeezer (Fundamentalist regarding the Constitution and the Holy Bible. Words mean things.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

man this is bizarre

good lord, is the Vatican really this PC.....this sounds more like Unitarians

if this is true, it’s friggin awful


44 posted on 03/10/2008 9:10:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Obama: The candidate for those who think Deliverance was a documentary.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

So...if I comminted one of these the day before it was “deemed,” am I guilty?


45 posted on 03/10/2008 9:12:34 PM PDT by bannie (clintons CHEAT! It's their only weapon.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
What are Capital Sins? [Seven Deadly Sins]
47 posted on 03/10/2008 9:52:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Turret Gunner A20; All

Not “new sins” but an old media blind spot (Vatican _DOES_NOT_ Announce Seven New Deadly Sins)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983663/posts


48 posted on 03/10/2008 11:29:22 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20; Liz; AT7Saluki; writer33
Pollution

Didn't the Supremes declare that exhaling pollutes?

58 posted on 03/13/2008 4:24:35 PM PDT by Libloather (March is Liberal Awareness Month.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

[Accumulating excessive wealth ]

If accumulating wealth is a ‘sin’, why isn’t sitting on your dead arse and not trying to accumulate wealth?


60 posted on 03/19/2008 6:12:05 PM PDT by dbacks (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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