[Alex Murphy]

What I find ironic and hilarious (see post #2) is that the same Catholics who deny that so-and-so "isn't a real Catholic" despite self-identification as a Catholic/same catechism etc, are pitching Gorbachev is a "real Catholic" despite his self-identification as an atheist.

Harley, do you realize what this means? You & I might secretly be "real Catholics", despite our stance as Trent-anathemized Protestants!?! And here I just got baptized by proxy into the Mormon church. I sure hope I don't get double-billed.

[HarleyD]

You & I might secretly be "real Catholics", despite our stance as Trent-anathemized Protestants!?!

Oh, my!!! Does anyone know where I can buy a rosary cheap???

[OpusatFR]

“I might secretly be “real Catholics”, despite our stance as Trent-anathemized Protestants!?!”

That’s ok. You’ll come into the fold. We are praying for you and others.

I pray for your health and happiness and for your conversion to Catholicism with others here.

Peace and love be to you and them.

[marshmallow]

What I find ironic and hilarious (see post #2) is that the same Catholics who deny that so-and-so "isn't a real Catholic" despite self-identification as a Catholic/same catechism etc, are pitching Gorbachev is a "real Catholic" despite his self-identification as an atheist. Harley, do you realize what this means? You & I might secretly be "real Catholics", despite our stance as Trent-anathemized Protestants!?! And here I just got baptized by proxy into the Mormon church. I sure hope I don't get double-billed.

Whatever floats your boat, Alex. Speaking of "self-identification", I think the most obvious incongruity on this forum is the use of the term "Christian". "Self-identification" as such is clearly no guarantee of Christ-like behavior, as we see every day. My point is that "self-identification" sometimes isn't worth a whole lot.

Wherever Gorby is on his own spiritual journey, it's poor form to use it as just one more artillery shell to lob at your target of choice.