Wow. The gift of a GTTM so early!
Posted on 04/04/2008 11:01:22 AM PDT by Gamecock
From the knot undoer web site:
“Saint Irenaeus, in turn, made a comparison between Eve and Mary, saying:
“Eve, by her disobedience, tied the knot of disgrace for the human race; whereas Mary, by her obedience, undid it”.
Oy vie! Contrary wise, the Scripture tells us:
“Romans 5:
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
So It is NOT Eve’s sin that cast humanity into sin - it was Adam’s (he was passive in teaching and practicing the one command God gave him - before He created Eve. “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”). It is NOT Mary whose obedience undoes the “knot” (what a pitiful term for sin), it was Christ alone!
What idolatry! The RCC must repent.
I agree, trisham.
And I believe that many good Catholic posters have pulled away from these threads (I could name quite a few) because the message of the Gospel is not one of hatred and condemnation.
Thanks, Petronski, for holding out.
But in the final analysis, I do believe that Catholics can “find a better way”. It may well be that pulling away from this disputatious venue of convenient anonymity may leave all those whose raison d’etre is to hate the Catholic Church no other recourse but to talk about it amongst themselves-—again and again and again.
Meanwhile, may we who are Catholic find better work in the Lord’s vinyard. Certainly, by staying away, we won’t be bait for more vitriol.
Their vitriol marks them.
All I’m doing is watering the tree, it produces poisonous fruit of its own nature.
By that fruit they are known.
This is the goal of what one friend has called "Argument by Attrition." The purpose thereof is to relentlessly flood the forum with anti-Catholic poison until Catholics one by one throw their hands up in disgust and leave them be.
You really know how to pack a lot of disinformation into one post. Did you take a correspondence course?
First heard the gospel on her death bed after 80 years of being a Catholic? Really????
Hmm.. guessing she missed 80 years of Mass then.
Prey tell, Gamer, what “disinformation” was in my post #981?
I don’t answer to the name “Gamer.”
WELL PUT.
Thx
I see enough horrific stuff hereon to grieve me for extended periods.
You accuse so many of playing “the Game”, I figured you would answer. By answering with a disclaimer, rather than answering the (reasonable) question asked, you give the impression of one who is playing “the Game”.
Can you tell me the disinformation in mu post 981?
The Mary/Eve thing
and the
Mary/Ark thing
are both incredibly hideous, to me.
And, mind-bogglingly perverse. Some demonized political power monger must have sat up nights trying to dream up such hogwash with which to lead folks astray.
Following God’s simple instructions has
always
been such a challenge for the perverse at heart that the
RELIGIONISTS have
always
found it tangibly and power mongeringly enriching to provide alternatives to focus on.
Naw. Not his interest, style or values.
However, there are plenty RC edifice PhD’s in it around . . . one could easily learn hereon.
I do not play The Game, I merely point it out when it is being played. Perhaps that is what bothers you.
Not at all. The game involves poster A falsely telling poster B what poster B believes, then shouting down protestations about the misrepresentation.
Wow. The gift of a GTTM so early!
You made the accusation about post 981. either support it with facts & observation or admit that all you do is throw empty allegations around.
What is disinformation in post 981?
You repeated your oft-told lie about idolatry.
You think ascribing forgiveness to actions of Mary is not idolatry? What, prey tell, might arise to that level? Do you agree with the Marion site that she, “by her obedience” undid sin?
Post 981, for reference:
From the knot undoer web site:
“Saint Irenaeus, in turn, made a comparison between Eve and Mary, saying:
“Eve, by her disobedience, tied the knot of disgrace for the human race; whereas Mary, by her obedience, undid it”.
Oy vie! Contrary wise, the Scripture tells us:
“Romans 5:
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
So It is NOT Eve’s sin that cast humanity into sin - it was Adam’s (he was passive in teaching and practicing the one command God gave him - before He created Eve. “Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.”). It is NOT Mary whose obedience undoes the “knot” (what a pitiful term for sin), it was Christ alone!
What idolatry! The RCC must repent.
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