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To: Lord_Calvinus
“***Do you really believe that the endless cycle of sacramental forgiveness to which you will now commit yourself can provide you the peace that the perfect righteousness of Christ can not?***

Jumping through hoops is for circus animals, not the saints of God.”

It is sad to see such a sad, shallow, and ignorant view of the sacraments in this statement.

Another example of a non-Catholic Christian who thinks they need to justify their inability to ever partake of the sacraments.

Catholics really do not care to argue the complete lack of the sacraments in Protestant sects and they do not need to defend their Church's teaching of the Sacraments. The fact is, the Catholic Church simply never abandoned what was taught, by the apostles themselves, from the 1st centuries regarding the sacraments. The Eucharist is a perfect example of this. And just because you cannot partake of it outside of the Catholic Church is no reason to attack it from the outside.

Funny how these non-Catholic protestants attack the unmerited grace attained through the sacraments in the Catholic Church, but in the same sentence, will defend their system of “Baptism” which requires not God's Grace alone to infuse the soul, but rather the work of the individual to decide when he or she becomes “Christian”. I thought that God chose us, not us who decides when we choose him.

The Sacraments are Biblical through and through. The only offer required by a Catholic to partake of any Sacrament is FAITH in Jesus Christ alone. If you find yourself in a Church devoid of the Sacraments, there is a very good reason for that - you belong to a faith that severed itself from the one Church and Priesthood that could ever administer the Sacraments. If that is your choosing, great, but please avoid attempting to discredit something which will continue to the end of time in the Catholic Church only because you have denied yourself of these teachings.

150 posted on 04/05/2008 5:36:36 AM PDT by motoman
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To: motoman

[partake of the sacraments.]

Bible believing Christians don’t need to partake of the sacraments of the Roman Church as we were saved by grace through faith when we were yet in our sin, indwelled by the Holy Spirit of God the moment we believed how that Jesus Christ died for our sins and rose again the third day and fully purchased our salvation by His own blood. The Holy Bi ble teaches us the doctines of God and His Christ and no church denomination or affiliation had anything to do with our salvation by grace through faith, paid for at the cross and sealed by the Holy Spirit of God. We simply believe unto salvation by the finished work of Christ when He arose from the dead the third day, the sacraments of men are vain to us, His Word and sure mercies are everything to us. The doctrines of the Roman Church and many prostestant cult groups are heresies to Bible believing Christians and an affront to the Christ of God since they are not of God.
And so we believe as we are commanded of God, not of man.

1 Peter :
1. Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2. Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4. To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5. Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.


152 posted on 04/05/2008 5:54:09 AM PDT by kindred (He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.)
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