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Youth Leaders 'Shift' Against Tide of Discontent (gag me)
Christian (ear scratching) Post Online ^ | 4-10-08 | Lillian Kwon

Posted on 04/11/2008 10:38:12 AM PDT by Terriergal

During a shift from the modern world to what many call a postmodern world, ministers who lead younger flocks are finding more reason to change their approach to youth ministry.

Thu, Apr. 10, 2008 Posted: 14:33:08 PM EST

During a shift from the modern world to what many call a postmodern world, ministers who lead younger flocks are finding more reason to change their approach to youth ministry.

With students walking away from the church in droves, youth ministry is no longer viewed as just fun and games. Rather, it's a serious time in ministry where high levels of creativity and innovation kick in, says author and sought-after speaker Brian McLaren.

Thousands of youth leaders have converged in the Chicago area for the Shift 2008 conference, hosted by the Willow Creek Association (WCA). Conference organizers desire to help "shift" the future of youth ministries and bring an end to youth ministries' ineffectiveness in spiritually transforming students.

"By the early and mid 90s, it was clear that there was some kind of a shift going on," said McLaren in an interview with WCA. "Different kinds of questions were being asked, [and there were] different kinds of doubts, different kinds of obstacles. And the better job we did at understanding the people who are from this culture ... the bigger the struggle was with a lot of our longtime church people."

Recent studies have shown that more than two thirds of young adults drop out of the church. In addition to the church losing its younger flocks, many are discontent and view the church more negatively than in years past.

McLaren sees a "tide of discontent" rising around the world. Seekers and the unchurched are finding a political agenda, social conservativism and fear of people with problems when they attend a church service, McLaren pointed out. And while they have deep concern for social justice and poverty, they find a completely different agenda of religious arguments in the church, he added.

"To a lot of unchurched young adults, they (religious arguments) seem kind of trivial compared to these life and death issues of HIV/AIDS, poverty, war, and environmental destruction," he commented. "It's that kind of disconnect that really is causing pain for a lot of us."

The disconnect was apparent even three decades ago.

During McLaren's time as a volunteer youth leader in the 1970s, his youth group listed contemporary worship music, the charismatic movement, and jeans in church as major issues in their churches. When naming issues that were important to them and their friends, however, the group listed global concerns including nuclear war, famine and overpopulation.

"There was nothing in common with those two lists," he told youth leaders on Wednesday.

Challenging the audience, McLaren asked if their church regularly addresses issues that are of most concern to their students.

Dan Kimball, pastor of Vintage Faith Church and a featured speaker at the April 9-11 conference, hopes it will be uncomfortable for the youth leaders at first to hear what many people think about Christians and the Church.

While many young people have great admiration for the person of Jesus, they're quickly turned off when the Church is mentioned. A Barna study in 2007 found that the majority of young non-Christians perceive present-day Christianity as judgmental, hypocritical, old-fashioned and too involved in politics.

But Kimball, author of They Like Jesus but Not the Church, still hopes ministers of this young generation will gain a sense of optimism, knowing that most of those perceptions are not true.

And it provides an opportunity to "truly go out in the world like Jesus sent us to as a youth leader," he said.

Youth leaders stand at a critical period in ministry when teens' minds are opening up and temptations are growing larger, as McLaren stated. So to Kimball, youth leaders are heroes and pioneers that change the future of churches.

Lillian Kwon
Christian Post Reporter


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostasy; brianmclaren; emergentchurch; emergingchurch
Willow Creek offically courting the apostate Emerging Church. Is this Hybels' 'solution' to his "we were wrong" announcement a few months ago?

And people wonder why the youth disappear from the church once they leave home.

1 posted on 04/11/2008 10:38:14 AM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal

read later - with much concern!


2 posted on 04/11/2008 10:57:57 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Terriergal
"To a lot of unchurched young adults, they (religious arguments) seem kind of trivial compared to these life and death issues of HIV/AIDS, poverty, war, and environmental destruction," he commented. "It's that kind of disconnect that really is causing pain for a lot of us."

It's been said that there are no atheists in foxholes. And on 9-11-2001, many Americans of all ages spontaneously went to the community of church to gather, mourn, and pray.

Liberals in the media feed the public a steady diet of chaos, disaster, and gloom. To be briefly "forgotten" by heavy doses of sex, consumerism, and shaudenfreude.

3 posted on 04/11/2008 11:54:55 AM PDT by weegee (March 18th, 2008 Obama~"I did NOT listen to the sermons of that man, Jeremiah Wright...")
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To: Terriergal

Here’s how I sum it up for my elders:

Family: The church continues to work against its families and contrary to Scripture by encouraging and facilitating children to worship apart from their family (example from the the church’s Children’s web page – Our Sunday morning program for kindergarten-fifth grade includes a high energy and interactive worship time, large group teaching and small group activities.) and failing to publicly exhort parents to fulfill their Biblical responsibilities, including having their family together for the worship service. Age appropriate Bible study makes sense (for the very young); worship should be families together, as children need to see mom and dad worship and learn from the preaching. The church ought to be deliberate and public in discipling and supporting parents rather than supplanting them.

A video one Sunday evening in 2007 told us that if people don’t give to the church, little kids will go to hell (paraphrase). Current and former children and youth ministers have, in the past, made public comments in this vein - as if parents are irrelevant to the Biblical training of their kids. That is not only wrong, it’s directly opposed to the Bible, which holds parents (primarily fathers) - not the church – responsible for training their kids. The church’s approach to “helping parents” lines up with the public school’s position of posturing as the experts to whom parents ought to entrust their children. This does not square with Scripture.


4 posted on 04/11/2008 12:04:25 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Terriergal
With students walking away from the church in droves, youth ministry is no longer viewed as just fun and games.

One thing I noticed in my time as a youth leader. . .Churches that conducted their youth programs as all fun and games ended up not keeping the youth long term. They'd come for a year, have some fun, then drift on to the next thing.

Churches that were striving to reach the kids with the gospel and disciple them once they received Christ ended up with kids that stayed in the youth group until adulthood.

5 posted on 04/11/2008 1:02:25 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

exactly.


6 posted on 04/11/2008 7:07:29 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

Post those links to those great family oriented sermons you sent me!


7 posted on 04/11/2008 7:07:53 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: weegee

I agree the media is screwed up. But not seeing your point as relates to the part you quoted (maybe it’s just me...)


8 posted on 04/11/2008 7:09:11 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Ya’ll can head to this page and listen to any of the selections and be blessed by the Word rightly presented.

http://www.gracefamilybaptist.net/GFBC_/Podcast/Podcast.html


9 posted on 04/11/2008 7:22:29 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Terriergal

http://www.shiftexperience.com/shiftevent/pdf/Session1_BrianMcLarenSlides.pdf

Did you see this??

This is McLaren’s presentation at Willow Creek. Hybels is allowing the dark side to be bold in his “church”


10 posted on 04/11/2008 11:20:48 PM PDT by Blogger (His love, not mine, the resting place, His truth, not mine, the tie.- Horatius Bonar)
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