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Upcoming excommunication (in MN)
Cafeteria is Closed ^ | April 15, 2008 | Gerald Augustinus

Posted on 04/15/2008 10:32:56 AM PDT by NYer

From the Winona Daily News:
When Winona Bishop Bernard Harrington talks about Kathy Redig, he speaks of her great heart. He regards her as a “great Christian person.”

Harrington praises her work as a chaplain at Community Memorial Hospital.
And when he thinks of her upcoming ordination in the Roman Catholic Womenpriests movement — a largely excommunicated group of women ordaining other women to the priesthood — his mood changes. He calls the situation “very, very sad.”

And pauses momentarily.

“She has chosen to make this decision, and I have to respond,” Harrington said. “My responsibility is as a shepherd and to uphold the faith and ensure that the souls are not misled. I have to do what I have to do to act responsibly.”

Harrington said he remains committed to teaching the Catholic church’s position on the ordination of women into the priesthood, while at the same time respecting Redig, who has been a lifelong member of the diocese and will be ordained May 4 in Winona.

“This will cause more confusion than good. I am sorry to see the church being fractured in another way,” Harrington said.

...
Most recently, St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, formerly the bishop of the La Crosse Diocese, excommunicated three Womenpriests.

As for Redig, Harrington sees little reason to formally excommunicate her if she goes through with ordination.

“She, by her actions, has excommunicated herself,” he said. “Archbishop Burke did something that formally had already taken place. It means my job is easier.”

...

While Redig and the womenpriests movement point out a nationwide priest shortage, Harrington said filling it with women simply cannot happen because of church teaching n the church cannot alter what Christ started.

“I think we’d look to married men first,” Harrington said. “But that is a discussion for the cardinals and the Holy Father. Those decisions are not made by a local bishop, and I am not a pope in my diocese.”

....

For now, Harrington is using this “sad event” as a teaching moment for the diocese members. That education started more than a month ago when a full page article outlining why women cannot be ordained to the priesthood was placed in “The Courier,” the diocese’s official newspaper.

“I have to let the Catholic community of this area know what is proper and true,” Harrington said. “This is not a proper ordination by Catholic teaching and tradition. The Catholic community needs to know they need a validly ordained priest.

“If they choose to go to her the Catholic community ought to know — must know — that confession is not being validly heard, that the sacraments and words used may be the same, but it’s not valid. After all, we see Mass in the movies and see Masses in plays, but we know they’re not real.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: mn; winona; womenpriests

1 posted on 04/15/2008 10:32:57 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Chaplain Kathy Redig holds a service in the chapel at Watkins Manor March 11

Kathy Redig has lots more to say in this article.

Winonan sees her Womenpriest ordination as an act of faith

2 posted on 04/15/2008 10:35:03 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Perhaps it is a bad photograph, but in the photo, she looks like a clown.


3 posted on 04/15/2008 10:44:34 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: NYer

Sorry madam - but you don’t make the rules - and I’m glad you don’t. You can leave the Catholic Church and form your own if you like. We have had many off-shoots from the Church over the last 500 years. Some are “successful” in that they lead people to God, while in most cases, such fracture leads people to evil. The Branch Dividians, Jim Jones, or Rev. Wright are fine examples of those who have decided they know better than the main-stream Church.


4 posted on 04/15/2008 10:49:01 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NYer

You know, we used to “Play Mass” when we were kids too.

Whenever we got white Necco wafers. What’s her excuse? Sure isn’t her age.


5 posted on 04/15/2008 10:51:52 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Huber

I’m thinkin’ it’s not the photo.


6 posted on 04/15/2008 10:52:13 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: netmilsmom; Jaded; Huber

Were you to walk into a room at a nursing home - or be visited by “this” in a hospital, how would you react? Personally, I find it very difficult to look at that photo and take her seriously.


7 posted on 04/15/2008 11:39:10 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
OMG---that demands a caption.

"Lookit me--a sap-happy nitwit who ate some
field mushrooms and now thinks she's a priest."

8 posted on 04/15/2008 11:42:07 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: NYer
I thought that Vincent Schiavelli had passed away a few years ago?


9 posted on 04/15/2008 11:43:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: NYer

Honestly, I would think she was a nun.
When she announced she was a Priest, I would probably blow a clot.


10 posted on 04/15/2008 11:43:25 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: NYer

Yeah, priestesses like this refugee from the funny-farm are exactly how to solve the Church’s problems in the US.

/sarc

Dear Bishop Harrington—make with the formal excommunication, please. Time for a “teachable moment.”


11 posted on 04/15/2008 12:36:38 PM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: NYer

I noticed that this article is from “The Cafeteria is Closed” blog. Based on his article from a couple weeks ago about how the Catholic Church is wrong on homosexuality, I thought he would have changed it to “The Cafeteria is Back Open.”


12 posted on 04/15/2008 12:38:03 PM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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Considering that I am more or less in full control of my faculties ...

Were I to be visited by “this” ... I would ask it to leave.


13 posted on 04/15/2008 12:41:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

Am I the only one who thinks she looks like Ben Franklin on peyote?


14 posted on 04/15/2008 1:56:18 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Antoninus

I agree, Gerald Augustine has completely gone off the rails.

I suspect that the old saying the “heresy usually begins below the waist” may have some validity here.


15 posted on 04/15/2008 3:01:15 PM PDT by PanzerKardinal
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