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To: Soliton; Between the Lines

“In other words, God is andother name for evolution” ~ Soliton

Not quite.

Excerpt:

“..I do have an idea for their [the IDM] research program. Show how the evolutionary process is not random, not how it cannot happen. We can give them help here. This could be like the ‘95 Behe/Miller debate in reverse where Behe showed that Miller’s textbook claimed purposeless evolution and Miller knowing that evolution is not random in the popular sense fixed the error. It came back to bite him in the Dover trial where the old version was being used and Miller pointed to the new version. If the heart of the problem ID has is a random, purposeless, evolution, then we are here to help show how current, mainstream, evolutionary theory shows otherwise. It would require them to risk getting “expelled” by their YEC allies, though. ~ Rich Blinne - 04/24/2008 http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200804/0583.html

More “verrrry” interesting conversation may be found here: http://www.calvin.edu/archive/asa/200804/

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7 posted on 04/25/2008 1:04:25 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Driving an Operation Chaos Hybrid that burns both gas AND rubber.)
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To: Matchett-PI
This guy is just using the old ID dodge of criticising evolution without offering positive evidence for ID. There is a college experiment that breaks up the class into a design team and an evolution team. They each attempt to create an airplain out of a drinking straw and two pieces of paper. The design team has access to all of the aeronautical engineering literature available at the school along with calculators and computers. The evolution team just has multiple lengths of straws and dozens of different wings to select from. The evolution team rolls a die and and tests the wing formation indicated randomely. Over a very short period of time the evolution team has found the optimum configuration. This is because form follows function, so physics determines the wing shape, not some random event. Randomness is simply part of providing the alternative formations from which evolution can select. The design team usually comes up with very nearly the same configuration for the same reason, form follows function. The purpose of the experiment is not to prove evolution, but to demonstrate that evolutionary processes mimic design.
8 posted on 04/25/2008 1:20:55 PM PDT by Soliton (McCain couldn't even win a McCain look-alike contest)
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