Skip to comments.What old-guard feminists get wrong about Catholics
Posted on 04/28/2008 6:33:10 AM PDT by NYer
In the run-up to Pope Benedict XVI's visit to the United States, there was a tremendous display of unseriousness at the National Press Club, followed by a sacrilege at a nearby Washington, D.C., church.
A misguided group called the Women's Ordination Conference held a protest – a press conference and an all-woman "Mass" at a local Methodist church. The group, as the name suggests, wants to see "the ordination of women as priests, deacons and bishops." Sadly, the group doesn't understand women or the Catholic Church.
In a prepared statement, WOC executive director Aisha Taylor declared:
"The failure to ordain women is a blatant manifestation of sexism in the church that has wider repercussions in the world.
"In the three years of his papacy, Pope Benedict XVI has made a few encouraging statements about women, but he has done nothing that suggests willingness to open the discussion on women's ordination. That's why for his 81st birthday, we are offering the pope a present: the gift of women, their leadership, talents, experiences and unique perspectives."
The group trailed the popemobile to papal events with a billboard truck that asked: "Pope Benedict, How long must women wait for equality? Ordain Catholic Women."
As they are stuck on their version of "equality," the fundamental problem with the group and its message is that whatever Benedict says or does will not be enough for them. They are not open to listening, but to dictating an unworkable agenda. If they were open to it, they would hear and see the Roman Catholic Church's embrace and celebration of women. Women will not be priests, but they will always be an essential part of the Church.
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And I want it now.
What a bunch of doofuses.
There is simply no good reason women should not be eligible for the priesthood. I am Catholic, and most of the Catholics I know agree with me, but also agree that the Church is so behind on this issue, we’re not likely to see a remedy in our lifetimes.
Are you serious or joking? If you’re serious, then why is your name “TraditionalistMommy”?
Serious. And I am mostly a traditionalist. But this is absurd, especially in light of the priest shortage, so many young people moving away from the Church. It’s long past time to come out of the dark ages on this issue. We are shooting ourselves in the foot.
Jesus did not select women to be his apostles, he chose men. And if it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me. How dare you go against the will of the Lord!
2) In my own personal opinion, the best practical argument against ordaining women is to be found in the character of the women most loudly clamouring for ordination. They appear to see the priesthood exclusively in terms of power and authority, rather than service and sacrifice.
Its an APOSTOLIC church.
The will of the Lord? If Christ were preaching today, you really think he would advocate treating women, or anyone, as second class citizens? His treatment of women and other subjugated people was remarkably advanced in its time. Why would you think it would be so backward now?
That being said, your language is ripped right out of the playbook of the women's ordination movement. You may claim to be a "traditionalist," but, at least on this issue, you've exposed yourself as anything but.
Currently, Islam is on the same side as the feminists -
their common enemy is the existence and dominance of Western Culture.
If character is the issue, you’re standing on very shaky ground, considering the shocking number of male priests who have sexually abused CHILDREN in recent decades. Do you think they saw the priesthood in terms of service and sacrifice?
Your sweeping generalization about women you see as “clamouring for ordination” is especially weak in this context.
If women were eligible, then perhaps we would have sufficient qualified, decent applicants for the priesthood to actually achieve a majority of priests interested in service and sacrifice. At the moment, it’s slim pickin’s.
The Bible is pretty clear on the roles that the sexes were created with.
It’s not about 1st class vs 2nd class, it’s about proper role fulfillment.
When you attempt to use something, anything, for other than its intended purpose, something is going to break.
I’m not concerned with how you label me. Have at it.
Your metaphor above is interesting, if you insist on being literal about it. You have to be fairly open to homosexuality to play that one out.
The Bible states clearly that women shouldn’t be allowed to speak in church. The Catholic Church ignores this rule. Why?
A traditionalist understands the Church is not a democracy, has never been a democracy, and never will be a democracy. If that is something you can’t accept, there are many alternative Christian sects available that will welcome and celebrate your view of equality.
What Christ preached two thousand years ago would be the same today. Christ does not change. He is always correct.
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