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Protestants and Sola Scriptura
Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

Posted on 05/03/2008 4:38:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Petronski

Read my earlier post. It will answer your question.


2,141 posted on 05/10/2008 6:42:36 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

Simple question for you, yes or no.


2,142 posted on 05/10/2008 6:51:35 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And I'm sure you're aware, Petronski, that many other translations inserted the word "alone" in Romans 3:28.

Not my question.

Are you claiming Luther did not add the word “alone” to his German translation of Romans 3:28?

2,143 posted on 05/10/2008 6:54:17 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan

Please do not make this personal.


2,144 posted on 05/10/2008 6:55:18 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg

“Did Luther issue a German translation adding that word, or not?”

In Dr. E’s answer, I recognize she broke the rule in using words with more than two syllables. In fact she used some quoted words with three syllables and even some German words.

“In fact, the Roman Catholic writer Joseph A. Fitzmyer points out that Luther was not the only one to translate Romans 3:28 with the word “alone.” —

At 3:28 Luther introduced the adv. “only” into his translation of Romans (1522), “alleyn durch den Glauben” (WAusg 7.38); cf. Aus der Bibel 1546, “alleine durch den Glauben” (WAusg, DB 7.39); also 7.3-27 (Pref. to the Epistle). See further his Sendbrief vom Dolmetschen, of 8 Sept. 1530 (WAusg 30.2 [1909], 627-49; “On Translating: An Open Letter” [LuthW 35.175-202]). Although “alleyn/alleine” finds no corresponding adverb in the Greek text, two of the points that Luther made in his defense of the added adverb were that it was demanded by the context and that sola was used in the theological tradition before him.”

So, as not to force one to read her research or to have to think it through, the answer in one syllable is, she said, yes.


2,145 posted on 05/10/2008 6:57:02 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Petronski

I think you need to review what “personal” means.


2,146 posted on 05/10/2008 6:59:02 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

HALLELUJAH AND PRAISE GOD FOR THAT! AMEN!


2,147 posted on 05/10/2008 7:04:07 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: xzins

INDEED! VERY WELL PUT.

Thanks for the voice of sanity yet again.


2,148 posted on 05/10/2008 7:05:08 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Fichori

I’m not about to presume to read my exhorter’s mind.


2,149 posted on 05/10/2008 7:06:08 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Fichori

Some seem to evidence more of a

capacity

and

more of a willingness to grow up

than others.


2,150 posted on 05/10/2008 7:06:57 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Wow. I just sent that same sentence to you in FReepmail without reading the thread. That's pretty amazing.

Of course, as a reformed Christian, I believe there are no coincidences. 8~)

2,151 posted on 05/10/2008 7:08:04 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; wmfights; fortheDeclaration; Gamecock; Alex Murphy

This kind of thing might end

when more RC’s

wake up and realize that their perspective is not the only one in town . . . not the only

—”RIGHTEOUS” one . . . using the term very loosely
—not the only ‘authoritative’ one . . . using the term very loosely . . .
—certainly not the only “Biblical” one . . . using the term extremely loosely . . .
—certainly not the only ‘reasonable’ one . . . using the term extremely loosely . . .
—certainly not the only ‘historically accurate’ term . . . using the term laughably loosely . . .
—certainly not the only Christian one . . .
—Certainly not the only logical one . . . .
. . .


2,152 posted on 05/10/2008 7:10:45 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski

Of course not . . .

In this case, it is hypothetically possible to speculate . . .

that such lack of awareness may be along the lines of . . .

The cause is often not aware of the result.


2,153 posted on 05/10/2008 7:12:27 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski

2,154 posted on 05/10/2008 7:16:26 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
And I'm sure you're aware, Petronski, that many other translations inserted the word "alone" in Romans 3:28.

Any translation adding to the Word of God is in my sight a poison. God has a far worse judgment, but such is not mine to decide.

2,155 posted on 05/10/2008 7:17:06 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: xzins

WOW!

SANITY STRIKES

YET AGAIN!

THANKS TONS AND TONS AND TONS

Much appreciated.


2,156 posted on 05/10/2008 7:17:17 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: blue-duncan
When replying, try making it one sentence long, preferably an inane question, two syllables per word at the most and an epithet for flavor. That seems to be the preferred method of discourse here.

Oh, and your answer was from your own research, not opinion, dogma or edict. Do it again and you will be referred to the RM for proper penalty.


A little more grace please.

Thank you.
2,157 posted on 05/10/2008 7:18:07 PM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Petronski

As will end a

LOT

of utter

UNBIBLICAL

UNHISTORICAL

UNCHRISTIAN

UTTER RC BALDERDASH.


2,158 posted on 05/10/2008 7:19:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Bosco; Quix

“No, the truth is that you essentially insulted another Christian with your UFO comment.”

Nope. He has often and even in this thread promoted his odd beliefs. Since he claims HIS is the TRUTH about the True Church his belief are a valid issue for those evaluating his veracity. Telling the truth is not an insult. He claims that UFO’s are real and part of the eschatology of the True Faith. Those are facts.


2,159 posted on 05/10/2008 7:19:57 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I love it when Calvinists show evidence of believing in modern Christian miracles.


2,160 posted on 05/10/2008 7:21:27 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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