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To: restornu

“Yet many who would provide the strongest denunciations of LDS theology and practice are the very ones who have done the least work in seriously studying LDS writings and interacting with LDS viewpoints.”

I thought that was an interesting statement. Thanks for posting this.

You know, don’t you, I used to be one of them, the anti Mormons. It was the way I was raised - Southern Baptist. We pretty much despised everyone - Jews, Catholics, Mormons, you name it.

I was rather amazed when I actually opened my mind an inch and listened to what the LDS Missionaries had to say. I was thoroughly amazed. I don’t like it much that preachers from the pulpit preached against Mormons all the while not having a clue on earth what they were talking about.

www.lds.org or www.mormon.org


9 posted on 05/06/2008 8:45:01 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; restornu

I was raised Southern Baptist and it was nothing like you described. We were not taught to hate anyone. we were taught salvation, morality and responsibility.

Calvary Baptist Church, Jackson Mississippi. Dr Joe Tuten pastor. In fact I have never attended a large Southern Baptist church like some here describe. I’m not even aware of any conservative Christian church that preaches hate though I do find Hagee’s Catholic rants a bit much.

I’m still Southern Baptist but I find some of the Mormon bashing on the FLDS threads to contain the vilest nasitest posters I have ever seen on this forum. They are the new Harpies.

Without reason and drunk on indignation venting their Mormon and been-done-bad- by a man demons on the forum.

Mormons here should not have to put up with that crap. It’s ridiculous.


13 posted on 05/06/2008 10:11:47 PM PDT by wardaddy (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it's toothy tribal charlatan)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I don't understand a lot of the anti-Mormonizm on FR. I had a couple of men knock on my door last week. They were spreading the gospel. They were very nice, I shook both of their hands and wished them luck. I could never be one, I love my beer too much. It must be an Evangelical thing I guess.
19 posted on 05/07/2008 8:29:18 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I was rather amazed when I actually opened my mind an inch and listened to what the LDS Missionaries had to say. I was thoroughly amazed. I don’t like it much that preachers from the pulpit preached against Mormons all the while not having a clue on earth what they were talking about.

Have you read some of J.Smith and B. Young sermons?

Open your mind another inch...and let the Truth in.

24 posted on 05/07/2008 9:20:22 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: Saundra Duffy; restornu; All
You know, don’t you, I used to be one of them, the anti Mormons. It was the way I was raised - Southern Baptist. We pretty much despised everyone - Jews, Catholics, Mormons, you name it. I was rather amazed when I actually opened my mind an inch and listened to what the LDS Missionaries had to say. I was thoroughly amazed. I don’t like it much that preachers from the pulpit preached against Mormons all the while not having a clue on earth what they were talking about.

Let's see. I'm getting a "vision" now. Yes, that's it. It's a FReeper thread in the year 2018. And some female poster writes in: "You know, don’t you, I used to be one of them, the anti Muslims. It was the way I was raised - Mormon. We pretty much despised everyone - Blacks, Protestants, Catholics, Muslims you name it. I was rather amazed when I actually opened my mind an inch and listened to what the Muslim Missionaries had to say. I was thoroughly amazed. I don’t like it much that preachers from the pulpit preached against Muslims all the while not having a clue on earth what they were talking about. So I let the Muslim missionaries teach me about the Quran. I prayed about it and was converted!"

25 posted on 05/07/2008 9:23:28 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Saundra Duffy
I thought that was an interesting statement.

Then STUDY these:


 
KJV 1 Corinthians 4:17
  For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.
 
KJV 1 Corinthians 11:2
   Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
 
 KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:15
   Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
 
KJV 2 Timothy 1:13
   Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
 
KJV 2 Timothy 3:14-15
 14.  But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
 15.  And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 

 
NIV Galatians 1:6-9
 6.  I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel--
 7.  which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.
 8.  But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
 9.  As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
 
 
 
ANYBODY???
 
Like this fine looking fellow???
 
 
 
 
 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
 12.  And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
 13.  For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
 14.  And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
 15.  It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Like THESE guys??
 
 
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
 
 

Ephesians 2:1-2
   As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins,  in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient.

33 posted on 05/07/2008 10:08:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
 
I was rather amazed when I actually opened my mind an inch and listened to what the LDS Missionaries had to say.
I was thoroughly amazed.
 
Me, too!!



THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 14
 
An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the Gentiles—There are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devil—The saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable church—The apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C. 
 
   1 And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks—
  2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.
  3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.
  4 For behold, this is according to the captivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him.
  5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repented not must perish.
  6 Therefore, woe be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.
  7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
  8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea.
  9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
  10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
  11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
  12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
  13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God.
  14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.
  15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the nations and kindreds of the earth.
  16 And as there began to be wars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things—
  17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.
  18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
  19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.
  20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
  21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.
  22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world.
  23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men.
  24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see.
  25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them.
  26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.
  27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was john, according to the word of the angel.
  28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw.
  29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my father saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me.
  30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was carried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen.

34 posted on 05/07/2008 10:09:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"It was the way I was raised - Southern Baptist. We pretty much despised everyone - Jews, Catholics, Mormons, you name it."

Judging by what I have seen on here on FR, this is definitely a VERY true statement.

51 posted on 05/07/2008 5:15:08 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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