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To: DocRock; del4hope; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; jude24; Ottofire; fishtank; ...

YBPDLNPLP and a few others.

I find this very encouraging.

Pray this takes hold through out the nation.


3 posted on 05/16/2008 12:10:15 AM PDT by Gamecock (The question is not, “Am I good enough to be a Christian?” rather “Am I good enough not to be?")
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To: Gamecock
After destroying thousands of Evangelical church, it's back to basics.

I too find this announcement encouraging.

14 posted on 05/16/2008 6:01:30 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Gamecock
I find this very encouraging.

Oh, how I had hoped that it really was encouraging, Gamecock...

But, unfortunately, Willow Creek is just using the popular man-made survey approach, again. They used this approach to establish the church and now they are using the approach to to meet the crowds ever changing tastes. The crowd no longer wants the "entertainment church". The crowd, as shown in the survey, now wants something more "spiritual".

So what will Hybel's give the crowd, now?

It is something that existed already at Willow Creek in a smaller dose...but it appears that Hybel's is ready to give it to them in a much bigger dose: hard core mysticism and the social gospel.

As evidence, Hybel's just had Brian McLaren, an emergent heretic, speak at Willow Creek, on the "shift" that is taking place, and that must take place, in Christianity. McLaren's proposed shift is a shift away from biblically-based orthodox Christianity towards a religion of mysticism and the social gospel.

While Willow Creek's conclusion that the seeker sensitive approach does not work is correct (as many have said from the beginning)...Their remedy associated with their conclusion is EVEN WORSE!

16 posted on 05/16/2008 6:12:13 AM PDT by pby
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No doubt - I’m in a “seeker sensitive” church. It was great to bring us all into the faith, but now it seems to be the equivalent of eating marshmallows for breakfast every Sunday.

I even talked with one of the lead pastors recently about whether they were concerned about being “offensive”.

For those seeking more “meat”, they are offering a Wednesday night, bible centered service that dives into the meat of topics more thoroughly than the Sunday service.


19 posted on 05/16/2008 6:28:03 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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I hope you are right, but I’m wondering if book and tape sales have slowed, and he’s decided that he can sell a new set of material to everyone who bought the first set.


53 posted on 05/16/2008 6:23:22 PM PDT by PAR35
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