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To: Colofornian

This post is a non-sequitur. The Church teachings on all of these things you list are clear - because members of the Faith don’t always follow the Church has no bearing on the infallibility of Its teachings. Pride is a sin, and thinking you “know better” than the Church established by Christ (whether you’re Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or whatever) has occured consistantly throughout time. People fail in following Christ all the time, doesn’t make Him wrong.


48 posted on 05/20/2008 9:40:27 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum

This post is a non-sequitur. The Church teachings on all of these things you list are clear - because members of the Faith don’t always follow the Church has no bearing on the infallibility of Its teachings. Pride is a sin, and thinking you “know better” than the Church established by Christ (whether you’re Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or whatever) has occured consistantly throughout time. People fail in following Christ all the time, doesn’t make Him wrong.


I don’t follow “the Church”.
I follow God.

The Catholic church is not equal to God.
The problem is thinking you “know better” than God.
I will trust what He said. Not a priest.


55 posted on 05/20/2008 9:51:14 AM PDT by Stark_GOP
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To: thefrankbaum
This post is a non-sequitur. The Church teachings on all of these things you list are clear - because members of the Faith don’t always follow the Church has no bearing on the infallibility of Its teachings.

First of all, "church teachings" are not just some obscure popified dictation that's occurred in some remote room or remote portion of history. "Church teachings" are either circulated into the mainstream of the church by its leaders & hiearchy, or they are not. (And if they are not, then it's not just a "membership" issue of failing to follow that you try to pass it off on )

I would surmise that any doctrines in need of being "dusted off" due to no air circulation are really no vital teachings at all. So "clarity" isn't the only issue. Actuality of circulation by Catholic bishops, priests, teachers, authors, monks, and other hiarchical leaders also needs to be evident.

So, let's break these down to see if it's a non-sequitor.

So, you're telling me, then, that if I selected the half-dozen closest Catholic schools to where I live, that if I investigated the school curricula, I would find all of these things:
...teachings of the worship of Mary?
...teaching of prayer to deceased people?
...active veneration of holy relics?

Or if I was to review the Catholic church curricula & sermons for the past year of six Catholic churches closest to where I live, I would find evidence of:
...live, active teachings to married women NOT to use birth control?
...20th century Mary European revelations?

95 posted on 05/20/2008 10:56:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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