[P-Marlowe]

The thoroughly apostate and utterly corrupt condition of the Church of Rome as proclaimed by its history down to the end of the fifteenth century,* was necessarily accompanied by absence of all spiritual sanctity and power whatever may have been the arrogant assumptions of the Church as to authority in spiritual affairs.

Gee, I wonder how many Catholics will come on and refute that? They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim, but for some unknown reason, they seem to all want to give the Mormons a pass.

I wonder why that is?

[docman57]

Well....there is an old saying...Who is the bigger Fool...The Fool, or He who tries to best the Fool. It’s often best not to cast one’s pearl’s before swine, it’s also best not to try to teach a pig to dance. Just remember, there are only two Religions on the Planet that claimed to have been started by angels. We all know who the most beautiful of angels is, and he likes to get things rolling not by totally twisting the truth, but by a subtle change of direction.....

[OpusatFR]

“Gee, I wonder how many Catholics will come on and refute that? They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim, but for some unknown reason, they seem to all want to give the Mormons a pass.

I wonder why that is?”

I can only speak for myself, not all Catholics, but personally, personally I say, I don’t take mothballs, Rolfing, Mindreading, and Pre-wash soaking products seriously either.

[Petronski]

They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim...

Any Protestant, including the Mormons.

[narses]

The thoroughly apostate and utterly corrupt condition of the Church of Rome as proclaimed by its history down to the end of the fifteenth century,* was necessarily accompanied by absence of all spiritual sanctity and power whatever may have been the arrogant assumptions of the Church as to authority in spiritual affairs.

As a faithful Catholic, I am placing this thread on IGNORE If you are Catholic, be aware that this thread contains slanders about the Catholic Church. We should not reward invincibly ignorant anti-Catholic bigots by engaging them in futile debate. Therefore, please do not respond to any of the lies about the Catholic Church contained on this thread. Saint Paul pray for those who hate the Church.

[Mad Dawg]

I wonder why that is?

That's easy. Do you REALLY wonder?

[count-your-change]

One could mention the so-called ‘Book of Abraham’, a fraudulent piece of work from the pagan Egyptian Book of Breathings or Book of the Dead. Imagine, a whole book “translated” from a few dozen letters of a parchment that had nothing to do with Abraham but everything to do with Egyptian gods and funeral rites.

[lastchance]

Because at least Protestants and Catholics do share common belief in the Trinity and other doctrines not unique to Catholicism. So though we differ, we do share a common language in most theological matters. But how does one debate someone who does not even speak the same language?

[dangus]

>> Gee, I wonder how many Catholics will come on and refute that? They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim, but for some unknown reason, they seem to all want to give the Mormons a pass. I wonder why that is? <<

For one thing, the attack is so broad, and nonsensical, it’s like arguing with toast. If a farmstand grocer accuses you of walking off without paying for a peach, you’re going to insist your innocence. If a raving lunatic on the street corner accuses you of being of being a secret agent of illuminati, sent to poison the entire Earth with space viruses, you’re going to back away slowly and quietly. But if someone wants to believe, without any scriptural support, and pure fantasy for his historical support, that all Protestants AND Catholics AND Orthodox are purely apostate... I’m better off letting such a person be convicted by his own arguments; he’s certainly not going to affect any larger religious debate, or lead anyone astray.

Hence, my only refutations were to assertions made ferquently within popular culture, and for the sake only of other readers, not the original poster.

Frankly, I think Grig is doing a fantastic job of exposing the insanity and hatred apon which the Mormon church was founded. Since most people certainly don’t experience modern Mormons as hateful (and therefore also see their doctrines as more eccentric than insane), what’s frankly shocking to me is that Grig apparently thinks this will help the Mormon cause.

[Gamecock]

Muslims would also have a free ride.

[Forest Keeper]

Gee, I wonder how many Catholics will come on and refute that? They would skewer any Protestant who made that claim, but for some unknown reason, they seem to all want to give the Mormons a pass. I wonder why that is?

Thanks for the ping, and that's an excellent point. I also don't seem to be able to recall any Councils ever being called mainly for the purpose of trashing any faith other than Protestantism, specifically the Reformed.