The Apostles' Creed...HE DESCENDED INTO HELL, THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE AGAIN FROM THE DEAD [Ecumenical]

WorkofGod.org ^ | October 27, 1998 | Robert M. Haddad

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[Radix]

Execution on Friday, resurrection on Sunday: That is three days alright.

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[xjcsa]

Execution on Friday, resurrection on Sunday: That is three days alright.

Yes, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday are three days. Not all cultures have always used the same language to describe the passage of time.

[Radix]

"Not all cultures have always used the same language to describe the passage of time."

True indeed.

I notice that not all cultures interpret Matthew 23:9 the same way either.

[lightman]

In the 2007 hymnbook Evangelical Lutheran Worship used by some congregations of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America the phrase has been softened to "he descended to the dead"...supposedly because an ecumencial consultation on Common Texts has said to do so.

Strange, because the "full communion partner" Episcopal Church holds as ¶III of the Thirty-Nine Articles of Relgion:

III. Of the going down of Christ into Hell.

As Christ died for us, and was buried; so also it is to be believed, that he went down into Hell.

[Salvation]

Some Catholic Churches too, say descended to the dead. I personally do not like it, because I don’t think it tells the entire truth.

Of course, there is always the question, “Was there even a hell back then? Was there even a heaven back then?”

Christ said to the Good Thief, “Today you will be with me in Paradise.” Was Paradise a waiting place for all the souls bound for heaven? We read about free spirits in one of the Gospels roaming around Jerusalem, raised from their tombs. It is all very interesting to me.

I believe that Christ was the first one into heaven followed, of course, by the Good Thief, and of course, then by all the souls who had been waiting.

And the flip side of this discussion might be “Where were Moses and Elijah if they were assumed bodily into heaven as seemingly they were when we witness the “Transfiguration.” Oh, the questions I have for Christ................LOL!

[Radix]

"Christ said to the Good Thief, “Today you will be with me in Paradise.”

I have heard it said that that promise was actually made before the dispensation of Grace!

In other words, it was before the Church (Ecclesia) was established on Earth.

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ec·cle·si·a (-klzh-, -z-)

n. pl. ec·cle·si·ae (-zh-, -z-)

1. The political assembly of citizens of an ancient Greek state.

2. A church or congregation.

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[Latin ecclsia, from Greek ekklsi, from ekkalein, to summon forth : ek-, out; see ecto- + kalein, kl-, to call; see kel-² in Indo-European roots.]

[lightman]

Karl Barth said that time only has meaning for those who are going to die. For eternal beings all “times” are now, or, as declared in Psalm 90 “a thousand ages in your sight are like a single evening”. Even if the general resurrection of the dead is not for several more millenia the Good Thief is still with Christ “today”.

[luckystarmom]

My daughters are having to memorize the Apostle’s Creed right now for school. They say descended into Hell. They go to a Christian school sponsored by a Christian Reformed Church.

[xjcsa]

I notice that not all cultures interpret Matthew 23:9 the same way either.

Or Matthew 24:34.

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**They say descended into Hell.**

That is great!

[Invincibly Ignorant]

And the flip side of this discussion might be “Where were Moses and Elijah if they were assumed bodily into heaven as seemingly they were when we witness the “Transfiguration.” Oh, the questions I have for Christ................LOL!

Uh, I kinda hate to be the one to have an answer for ya so soon. But ok. Pssssssst, according to the writings you Catholics claimed to have compiled, the transfiguration was only a vision. See below.

Matthew 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 9And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

[poinq]

Here is what I have been reciting for the past 40 years.

Profession of Faith:

[On Sundays and solemnities, the Nicene Creed is normally recited by everyone after the homily. The Apostles’ Creed may be used instead, esp. in celebrations of Masses with children.]

NICENE CREED:
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God,
begotten, not made, one in Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven:
[bow during the next two lines:]
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered, died, and was buried.
On the third day he rose again in fulfillment of the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
APOSTLES’ CREED:
I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended to the dead.
On the third day he rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.

Amen.

[thefrankbaum]

Heck, I imagine some people even have different takes on Matthew 5:29-30!

[A.A. Cunningham]

"Because Christ also died once for our sins, the just for the unjust: that he might offer us to God, being put to death indeed in the flesh, but enlivened in the spirit, In which also coming he preached to those spirits that were in prison: Which had been some time incredulous, when they waited for the patience of God in the days of Noe, when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water." 1 Peter 3:18-20

"Who shall render account to him, who is ready to judge the living and the dead. For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to the dead: that they might be judged indeed according to men, in the flesh; but may live according to God, in the Spirit." 1 Peter 4:5-6

"Chap. 3, Ver. 19. Spirits that were in prison. See here a proof of a third place, or middle state of souls: for these spirits in prison, to whom Christ went to preach after His death, were not in heaven; nor yet in the hell of the damned: because heaven is no prison: and Christ did not go to preach to the damned." St. Jerome's commentary.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

happy for ya

[Petronski]

VISION
G3705

ὅραμα

horama
hor’-am-ah
From G3708; something gazed at, that is, a spectacle (especially supernatural): - sight, vision.

[Invincibly Ignorant]

webster online

1 a: something seen in a dream, trance, or ecstasy; especially : a supernatural appearance that conveys a revelation b: a thought, concept, or object formed by the imagination c: a manifestation to the senses of something immaterial

2 a: the act or power of imagination b (1): mode of seeing or conceiving (2): unusual discernment or foresight c: direct mystical awareness of the supernatural usually in visible form