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To: Diego1618

>> This is very confusing to some until you understand that Chapter and Verses were not included in the original writing. If you read [Mark 15:42 through Mark 16:1] you’ll realize that the Sabbath being referred to is indeed the same Sabbath that [John 19:31] mentions. The High Sabbath of the Feast of Unleavened Bread! <<

Would you please cite evidence that the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath? You seem to be arguing ex nihilo! One last time: It is the SEVENTH day of the Feast of unleavened bread which is a Sabbath, NOT as you claim the first.

The “High Sabbath” is a Sabbath (Saturday) that coincided with a solemn holy day (Passover).


80 posted on 06/13/2008 7:24:57 PM PDT by dangus
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Would you please cite evidence that the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath? You seem to be arguing ex nihilo! One last time: It is the SEVENTH day of the Feast of unleavened bread which is a Sabbath, NOT as you claim the first.
The “High Sabbath” is a Sabbath (Saturday) that coincided with a solemn holy day (Passover).

This can be a little confusing for those who equate Jewish traditions concerning the holy days with biblical evidence.

The bible draws a difference between "Passover" and "the days of unleavened bread".

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD's passover.

Indeed Passover, Nisan 14, is NOT a sabbath biblically speaking.

Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.

But the first day of unleavened bread IS.

Christ died on Passover, which is not a sabbath. But the first day of unleavened bread IS a high holy day.

The confusion comes about because most Jews today consider "passover" and the days of unleavened bread to be synonomous and that they begin NOT on Nisan 14, as the bible says, but Nisan 15, the first days of unleavened bread.

For example, Judaism 101 says about Passover:

"Pesach begins on the 15th day of the Jewish month of Nissan. "

Now clearly the bible says passover IS on Nissan 14. So Jewish tradition shouldn't be the benchmark of how holy days are observed.

82 posted on 06/13/2008 7:38:41 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Would you please cite evidence that the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a Sabbath? You seem to be arguing ex nihilo! One last time: It is the SEVENTH day of the Feast of unleavened bread which is a Sabbath, NOT as you claim the first.

[Leviticus 23:4-8] 4 These are the appointed seasons of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their appointed season. 5 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at dusk, is the LORD'S passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD; seven days ye shall eat unleavened bread. 7 In the first day ye shall have a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work. 8 And ye shall bring an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days; in the seventh day is a holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work. A holy convocation came to be known during the first century as a "High" Sabbath.

You can find the above scripture here.

[Matthew 27:62] Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate. This confirms Our Lord was killed on the preparation day [Leviticus 23:5]

[Mark 15:42] < And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath Our Saviour at this point is now dead....being killed on the preparation day [II Chronicles 35:1]....the 14th.

[Mark 16:1] And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. As I said in post #77, the Sabbath they are referring to is the High Sabbath of the 15th....the First Day of Unleavened Bread. When Chapters and Verses are established by man it can sometimes change the flow of the story. Between [Mark 16:1] and [Mark 16:2] there is a gap of at least two days (Nisan 16 and Nisan 17). The women observe the Sabbath.......buy the spices and in the next paragraph they prepare the spices.....and rest again on another Sabbath!

[Luke 23:53-56] 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. 54 And that day was the preparation (the 14th), and the sabbath drew on (the 15th). 55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. Notice that the women are now in possession of the spices and they prepare them.....but then they rest the Sabbath day according to the commandment (Sabbath # two....Friday evening/Saturday).

[John 19:14] And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

[John 19:31] The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

Now.....we've seen that the 15th (Wednesday evening/Thursday) was called a day of "Holy Convocation" and we've seen that the 14th (Tuesday evening/Wednesday) was the day of preparation. This was also the day of Our Lord's (the Passover) death. We've also noted that the women buy the spices after the Sabbath, the 16th (Thursday evening/Friday) and they rest again for another Sabbath on the 17th (Friday evening/Saturday). We took note of the fact that the Apostle John refers to the 15th as a "High Sabbath" and we now can confirm that the crucifixion/resurrection ordeal took a little more than three full days.....but the time Our Lord spent in the tomb was 72 hours [Matthew 12:40].

92 posted on 06/14/2008 5:56:56 PM PDT by Diego1618
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