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Anglicanism Nearly Finished Destroying Itself
Catholic and Enjoying it ^
| June 26, 2008
| Mark Shea
Posted on 06/26/2008 10:26:37 AM PDT by NYer
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:26:37 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
I remember being at the opening ceremonies of the Great Jubilee of the Year 2000 in Rome, when pope John Paul II opened the Holy Door at the Basilica of St. Paul Outside The Walls. He invited the then-archbishop of canter-bury, Dr. George Carey, and an Orthodox archbishop to open the door together with him, three abreast in unity.
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:27:56 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: sionnsar; Kolokotronis
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:29:28 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: NYer
Sad evidence that homosexuality tends to destroy whatever it touches.
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:34:48 AM PDT
by
caseinpoint
(Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
To: NYer
Henry VIII is immensely proud, if satan lets him know what’s cooking up here.
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:42:37 AM PDT
by
CWWren
(Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
To: NYer
Dr. Carey was a different person altogether from Williams the ArchDruid. He actually had principles which were not subject to endless negotiation.
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:43:18 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: NYer
...three abreast in unity.Another error for the sake of ecumenism.
The present Vicar of Christ promises to be more pleasing to his Maker!
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:44:44 AM PDT
by
CWWren
(Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
To: NYer
The problem is that even if the Anglican Communion excises the cancer that is rotting the communion from the head, the remainder of the body will still be split into a more Orthodox and a more Reformed faction.
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posted on
06/26/2008 10:50:17 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
To: caseinpoint
Sad evidence that homosexuality tends to destroy whatever it touches. Some years ago, NRO's John Derbyshire commented that when homosexuals join a group they eventually reach a certain number where the group stops being about its original intent, and instead, becomes all about homosexuality and their agenda.
The Anglican Church appears to have reached that point.
To: LibertarianLiz
I concur that you and John Derbyshire are right. I remember when the New Hampshire Bishop assured people that he would be a Bishop who was incidentally a homosexual. How wrong that was. Now it’s all about him being gay and his “calling” to transform the church to his image.
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:07:01 AM PDT
by
caseinpoint
(Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
To: NYer
It's interesting how heresy - real heresy - expands within the soul of the heretic until it displaces everything else.
Homosexualism and feminism are both Christian heresies which deny the created order and hence the Creator. Those Episcopalians who have been captured by these heresies just CAN'T LET THEM GO, not for a second.
Over time, EVERYTHING becomes about gay sex or equal "rights", and there's no room any more for Christ.
Amazing, and sad.
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:13:45 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
To: LibertarianLiz
It is at it's core "the self-love disease." I have known several men from my high-school years who have "gone over to play for the other team", and over their lives that one choice has become everything they are. They went from being atletes, intellectuals, sons, workers, and Americans (who chose homosexuality) to being
gay; it came to color every thing they did, and this disease in the end demanded that everyone around them approve of their bad choices.
In every other aspect, nice guys (although every one had weak, agressive, or absent fathers.) But if you did not agree that what they did was completely fine and completely out of their control to reject, you were a bigot and cast into the night. Over time, they had "gay-colored-glasses" permanently welded to their heads, and there was not an issue, idea or choice not completely at the mercy of their "lifestyle choice." Sad.
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:29:31 AM PDT
by
50sDad
(OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
To: CWWren
Pope Benedict really knows to crack the whip — I admire our current Pope
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:35:48 AM PDT
by
Cronos
("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
To: Cronos
Me too!
Many of those who have left the Novis Ordo for sedevacantist and SSPX chapels and churches need to pay strict attention to what Benedict is doing and saying.
The big problem here is that the majority of our bishops are so liberal that they're a disgrace. The liturgical reforms that are now happening, that I have personally observed in Europe may not have a chance here for some time due to these bishops.
The UK and Ireland's Catholic churches are, as of a date certain in the near future, changing to the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass. I was astounded when I read this in an English language edition of the official Vatican newspaper.
Unfortunately, during the decades following Vatican II sin, in the eyes of many, has become subjective and those calling themselves Catholic look upon the Church as a cafeteria.
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:46:52 AM PDT
by
CWWren
(Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
To: Cronos
I don’t think of him as a whip cracker at all. I might have thought that before he became pope, but no more. He’s more of a firm father who never raises his voice but doesn’t condone either. One that lets you learn by experiencing the consequences of your behavior.
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posted on
06/26/2008 11:56:09 AM PDT
by
ichabod1
(If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it, and if it stops moving, subsidize it.)
To: LibertarianLiz
Some years ago, NRO's John Derbyshire commented that when homosexuals join a group they eventually reach a certain number where the group stops being about its original intent, and instead, becomes all about homosexuality and their agenda.Similar holds true regarding Muslims and whatever country they happen to be colonizing at the moment: once they reach critical mass there, that country might as well forget all about its original reason for existing.
To: Jim Noble
It's interesting how heresy - real heresy - expands within the soul of the heretic until it displaces everything else. Would you also apply this to the SSPX?
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posted on
06/26/2008 4:19:55 PM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: NYer
I’m not a Catholic and I don’t have a dog in the SSPX fight.
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posted on
06/26/2008 5:05:17 PM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
To: NYer; Huber
The piece seems really confused about the definitions of Anglican, Anglicanism, and the Anglican Communion.
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posted on
06/26/2008 6:05:30 PM PDT
by
sionnsar
(trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: sionnsar; NYer
Agreed. Trapped at O’Hare due to a delayed flight, I contemplated whether it merited pinging and concluded that it would result in more confusion than illumination.
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posted on
06/26/2008 6:53:29 PM PDT
by
Huber
(And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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