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To: iowamark; All
Unlike obama, it only took me 10 minutes to leave a church when I witnessed something awry, a woman actually reading scripture at Mass. I stood up, hit the door and never looked back.

liberal Catholics are nothing more than liberals anywhere else, infiltrators and agents of destruction, Hell-bent on reducing everything they touch to the lowest common denominator and more palatable to the masses.

From my readings, Henry VIII was not looking to start anything more than an English Catholic Church with himself at the head than a protestant denomination. After all, he sat on the throne as a result of Divine Right, what would prevent him from speaking on matters theological?

It was only after recognizing the great wealth of Church holdings on the isle that made it a fiduciary venture. Much like the princes and other nobles of German states who converted by lucre rather than by the inspirational teachings of Luther.

4 posted on 07/08/2008 3:26:19 AM PDT by britt reed (His followers believe Obama is the "Second Coming", those with open eyes recognize the Golden Calf.)
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To: britt reed

Henry VIII was always a Catholic. He was not a Papist. He, along with most Englishmen at the time, drew a distinction between the two (like most princes in Europe, he was fully aware of the politics and corruption that plagued the Roman Church before Trent). It was under Edward VI and his regents that the Church of England took a sharp Lutheran turn, only to be brought back into the Roman fold under Mary I and her husband King Philip of Spain. Unfortunately Mary’s marriage to Spain and the activites of the Inquisistion in England turned the people against Mary and against Rome. The English came to equate loyalty to the Pope with subservience to continental powers such as Spain. When Elizabeth came to power, she had to ward off threats from Protestants (returning from exile) and Romanists (who were trying to follow the Pope’s order to kill her). The result was the Anglican Church.


5 posted on 07/08/2008 5:14:20 AM PDT by bobjam
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