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Women, Ordination, and Videotape
Curt Jester ^ | July 9, 2008 | Jeff Miller

Posted on 07/11/2008 10:03:50 AM PDT by NYer

p class="blog">In my mail I got a "breaking news alert" from the National Catholic Reporter.  You know it has to be pretty silly when they get in high dudgeon on something concerning the Church.  In covering The archdiocese of St. Louis and the attempted ordination of women let us see what upsets them.

The archdiocese of St. Louis authorized the video recording of a Catholic women's ordination ceremony that took place in a synagogue last November. It then used the video, along with photographs apparently taken from the video, as evidence to punish a Catholic nun who attended the liturgy, according to several people familiar with the case.

Sister of Charity Louise Lears was forced out of all church ministerial roles and banned from receiving sacraments within the archdiocese by an edict of St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke announced June 26.     

You mean the archdiocese actually videotaped an "ordination" ceremony proudly advertised and announced before hand?  A faux ceremony that now entitles those who directly participate with auto excommunication. An excommunication reserved to the Holy See to remit. A ceremony where those in his diocese flagrantly disobeyed their archbishop and the Church.  Yeah the archdiocese would have no reason to want to know who was attending this.  Then they dared to actually punish a nun who was causing scandal and was disobedient by being there.  Imagine that.

I also have to laugh at the word "edict" which is what liberals call any Church document they disagree with.  It was actually a decree of extra-judicial adjudication.

However, several people familiar with the documents, prepared by the archdiocese that made up the case against her, strongly criticized what they called the "surveillance" video-taping.

One of the confidential archdiocesan documents, according to knowledgeable sources, was an affidavit giving permission to an individual to attend the ceremony in order to record it. The record of the ceremony is contained on two electronic discs in Lears' file.

So surveillance is now videotaping a ceremony open to the public.

"It was a surveillance video. That's exactly what it was," said Sean Collins, a co-pastoral associate of Lears at St. Cronan Parish until he resigned July 2nd, in part, he said, to speak about what he says has been a grave injustice taken against Lears.

"What disturbs me even more is that the video taping was premeditated," he said, referring to the affidavit authorizing it by the archdiocese.  Collins did not see the document firsthand, but referred to others who had seen it.

Premeditated?  Well I guess in that context everything we do is premeditated.  I guess also that it wouldn't be "disturbing" if the archdiocese had someone tape it at the very last minute to avoid premeditation.  Sadly progressives crack me up when they see the grave injustice of punishing someone who is not faithful and is totally disobedient to her bishop.  For them the problem is not that they do not at least give religious submission of intellect and will as per Vatican II to what has been infallibly defined by the ordinary Magisterium.  Oh no it is the archdiocese's fault for videotaping them in their extreme disobedience.

The article also wonders why Sr. Lears was "singled" out when the reality is that he bishop had previously issued a summons and canonical admonition and she failed to appear to defend herself.  She was also part of a pastoral team of a St. Cronan parish whereas the other religious that attended were part of religious orders directly and not working for the archdiocese.

Videotaping will send women back to the bad old days of secret ordinations on riverboats. Oh the shame.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; womenpriest

1 posted on 07/11/2008 10:04:14 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Ping


2 posted on 07/11/2008 10:05:30 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Ah, the “WomenPriest” movement. It almost brings a tear to my eye.


3 posted on 07/11/2008 10:18:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

The title “Women, Ordination and Videotape” matches up nicely with “Sex, Lies and Videotape.”


4 posted on 07/11/2008 10:19:48 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: NYer

I conduct pre-meditated surveillance of so many things all day long - I suppose I could simply drive with my eyes closed instead.

And I also issue edicts to my secretary, filing clerk, office staff, store clerks, and my kids.

I must be a terrible person.


5 posted on 07/11/2008 10:20:57 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: Petronski

Yes. I noticed that.


6 posted on 07/11/2008 10:23:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Notwithstanding; Petronski; trisham
What disturbs me even more is that the video taping was premeditated.

I'll bet they had no problem with the 'premeditated' taping by the news media.

7 posted on 07/11/2008 10:35:50 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

The people running the Synagogue certainly don’t invite any respect by allowing this tomfoolery. Believing Jews would have nothing to do with this.


8 posted on 07/11/2008 11:00:32 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: NYer
Videotaping will send women back to the bad old days of secret ordinations on riverboats. Oh the shame.

ROFL

9 posted on 07/11/2008 11:24:08 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: NYer

Does the NRC get this upset about the treatment of the SSPX?


10 posted on 07/11/2008 11:25:34 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: sandyeggo

I’ve seen pictures. Some of these women appear to need female hormones.


12 posted on 07/11/2008 12:34:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

What’s Latin for cat-o-nine-tails?


13 posted on 07/11/2008 4:03:20 PM PDT by dsc
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What’s Latin for cat-o-nine-tails?

flagellum

14 posted on 07/11/2008 4:38:08 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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They had no problem with the premeditated “ordinations” either.


15 posted on 07/11/2008 5:22:59 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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