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To: Gamecock

All those who “save themselves” will be near apoplexy upon reading this thread. Does it not say “God so loved the world”? Does it not say “God is not willing that any should perish”? Don’t these oft misunderstood verses over ride those explicit teachings of the numerous verses that proclaim God’s choosing of His people? John 1:12 - 13 as example “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”


6 posted on 07/13/2008 11:35:59 AM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg; Gamecock
My favorite verses supporting particular redemption are those spoken by Christ in John 17.

If Christ says He doesn't pray for all the world, but only for those whom God has given Him, then who are we to deny such a distinction exists?

Sadly, many Christians don't realize they are doing the devil's work by believing in unlimited atonement because it actually dumbs down the grace of God into a mere influence, instead of our only means of resuscitation by the Holy Spirit, according to the will of God.

7 posted on 07/13/2008 11:55:31 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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