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7,29.08
| Michael
Posted on 07/29/2008 7:58:19 PM PDT by MichaelTheeArchAngel
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To: MichaelTheeArchAngel
Vav is a consonant. Shuruk/milupim is a vowel which looks like a dagesh vav.
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posted on
07/30/2008 8:50:15 AM PDT
by
Philo-Junius
(One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
To: MichaelTheeArchAngel
When you cut and paste a Wiki article
without doing the research,
you get wrong every time.
42
posted on
07/30/2008 8:52:08 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: mkjessup
There was grace and salvation without shedding blood in the OT, so why would there suddenly be a need to crucify/shed blood?
Micah
6 Wherewith shall I come before the LORD, and bow myself before the high God? shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves of a year old?
7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, or with ten thousands of rivers of oil? shall I give my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul?
8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?
43
posted on
07/30/2008 8:59:32 AM PDT
by
Netizen
To: Netizen
There was grace and salvation without shedding blood in the OT, so why would there suddenly be a need to crucify/shed blood?
So you are saying that Jesus dying on the Cross was unnecessary and not required?
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:02:57 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
To: mkjessup
So you are saying that Jesus dying on the Cross was unnecessary and not required? That's right. Crucifixion is a Roman means of death penalty generally reserved for those they saw as a threat. The mission of Jesus was to preach a message of repentance, which he did.
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:08:16 AM PDT
by
Netizen
To: Netizen; mkjessup
Why then :NAsbU Genesis 22:8 Abraham said, "God will provide for Himself the lamb
for the burnt offering, my son." So the two of them walked on together.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:17:09 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: evets
Is that the “Mormom” Jesus?
To: Netizen; All
So you are saying that Jesus dying on the Cross was unnecessary and not required?
That's right. Crucifixion is a Roman means of death penalty generally reserved for those they saw as a threat. The mission of Jesus was to preach a message of repentance, which he did.
Well there sure was a major mixup on that Day at Golgotha, now wasn't there?
DO you know Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour?
Have you been to Jesus for the cleansing power?
Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb?
Are you fully trusting in His Grace this hour?
Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb?
Are you washed... in the Blood?
In the soul-cleansing Blood of the Lamb?
Are your garments spotless are they white as snow?
Are you washed in the Blood of the Lamb?
As I live and breathe, I tell you without absolutely any doubt, that one Day you will breathe your last, and if you die without Jesus Christ, your soul will be lost for all Eternity.
You can come to Him today as your Saviour, or end up facing Him as your Judge when it's too late.
If you do not know Him, choose wisely while you can.
48
posted on
07/30/2008 9:25:08 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
(Heaven or Hell, the choice is yours. Jesus made it possible to choose Heaven.)
To: XeniaSt
Genesis 22:8 Abraham said, "God will provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son." So the two of them walked on together.
Abraham was being tested, as we all know.
And I would suggest that it isn't necessary to worry about what Abraham said on that occasion, and that what is needed is to focus more on what Jesus Christ said about how to reach the Father.
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:30:35 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
To: XeniaSt
Throughout the Jewish scriptures, the prophets declared that repentance and charity are more pleasing to God for atonement than a blood sacrifice.
Too, often people inject things into the text that are not there, trying to fulfill their own prophecies.
One could also view this instance as God didn't want the shedding of human blood and brought forth an animal.
Hosea 14
2 Take with you words, and turn to the LORD: say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously: so will we render the calves of our lips.
The 'calves of our lips'. Animal sacrifice was to be replaced with prayer.
50
posted on
07/30/2008 9:33:31 AM PDT
by
Netizen
To: mkjessup
And I would suggest that it isn't necessary to worry about what Abraham said on that occasion, and that what is needed is to focus more on what Jesus Christ said about how to reach the Father. And just what did Jesus say about that:
Matthew 9:13
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Matthew 19
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
51
posted on
07/30/2008 9:43:06 AM PDT
by
Netizen
To: mkjessup
If you do not know Him, choose wisely while you can.I think you need to do more than know Yah'shua. I just had two Mormon missionaries at my door.
I asked them if they knew Jesus.
Their answer was: Yes, he WAS a jew.
I told them that he was a Jew
and is a Jew
and will return to rule and reign
over all the world as a Jew
on the throne of King David in Jerusalem.
They thanked me and walked away confused.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
52
posted on
07/30/2008 9:46:45 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: Netizen
I’m waiting to hear if you know Jesus Christ as your Saviour.
All of your knowledgable quotations, and citing of Scripture will come to naught if your answer is “no”.
Or have you not heard that even the Devil can quote Scripture if it fits his purpose?
53
posted on
07/30/2008 9:48:04 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
To: XeniaSt
If you do not know Him, choose wisely while you can.
I think you need to do more than know Yah'shua.
What do you contend needs to be done over and above knowing Jesus Christ as one's Saviour?
We are saved by Jesus Christ alone, by virture of His Blood, shed upon the Cross for the redemption of our sins.
That is our eternal bottom line. We can accept Christ's free gift of salvation, or reject it in favor of our own flawed interpretations and solutions which will ultimately fail us.
54
posted on
07/30/2008 9:52:14 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
To: mkjessup
Bookmarking for later, have to (*gasp*) go offline for a while.
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:54:11 AM PDT
by
mkjessup
To: Netizen
It was YHvH who initiated the request. NAsbU Hosea 6:6 For I delight in loyalty(lovingkindness) rather than sacrifice,
And in the knowledge of Elohim rather than burnt offerings.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:54:49 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: mkjessup
We must call on His NAME : Yah'shua
YHvH be my salvation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
07/30/2008 9:57:38 AM PDT
by
Uri’el-2012
(Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
To: forkinsocket
Oooooh. Forkinsocket knows how to do a Hebrew
ad hominem.
I still haven't heard a vav pronounced as a "W," ever. (Except for the "Yahweh" folks.)
ML/NJ
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posted on
07/30/2008 10:06:43 AM PDT
by
ml/nj
To: mkjessup
Well there sure was a major mixup on that Day at Golgotha, now wasn't there? If there were a mix up, it would have been that God and Jesus were at odds.
Luke 22
41 And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed,
42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Two conflicting wills.
According to Matthew 6:24, you cannot serve two masters. Some day you will have to choose between our Father YHWH and the man Jesus, choose wisely.
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posted on
07/30/2008 10:10:22 AM PDT
by
Netizen
To: ml/nj
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