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The Dying Rooms
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=21055 ^ | Jan. 07, 2002 | CNS

Posted on 08/03/2008 4:37:49 PM PDT by stfassisi

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To: nmh

As you know, nmh, meaning depends on the characters and the tones. In all likelihood, “no name” was not the intent of whomever named her.


41 posted on 08/03/2008 7:25:23 PM PDT by compound w
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To: nmh

Don’t you have to see the characters to know the meaning?


42 posted on 08/03/2008 7:26:19 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: keepitreal

No. The translation is good enough.

I have an expert at home - 100% Chinese and believe it or not - not a Communist and appalled at abortion.


43 posted on 08/03/2008 7:33:54 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you. I never implied in my comment anything about communism nor abortion.

Have a nice evening.


44 posted on 08/03/2008 7:38:30 PM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: keepitreal

I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you. I never implied in my comment anything about communism nor abortion.

Have a nice evening.


I didn’t take it that way!

I find it amusing that OTHERS, not you, like to broad brush ordinary Chinese over there as monsters. The truth is the Chinese LOVE kids. They are typically very tight as a family. The Chinese are typically very conservative.


45 posted on 08/03/2008 7:43:00 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: JACKRUSSELL; All

Thanks for the ping. Horrific article. Interesting, educational thread. Thanks to all contributors.


46 posted on 08/03/2008 7:55:05 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: driftdiver

thank you.


47 posted on 08/03/2008 8:39:34 PM PDT by catroina54
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To: stfassisi

My heart can’t get by the subtitle.....

Chinese Orphanages adopt a “zero population growth policy”

Maybe I can read it tomorrow.


48 posted on 08/03/2008 9:59:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


49 posted on 08/04/2008 3:11:26 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: stfassisi

In my haste this morning, I pinged and gave credit to wagglebee for this thread and as oversight, failed to ping to the thread as yours. Sorry.

St. Francis is my favorite Saint...

8mm


50 posted on 08/04/2008 3:54:37 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: compound w
Mei does mean "beautiful", as well as "younger sister."

However, it also means "no" or "none", as in "mei you" (don't have). It depends upon the tones used. If I remember correctly, "mei" (beautiful) uses the first tone, and "mei" (none) uses the third tone. (My books are in my car at the moment, so I can't look it up.)

Ming is the word for "name", as in "ni jiao shenme ming zi?" (literally, "you called what name?")

(I can't speak more than 300 words of Mandarin at the moment, but those are some of the basics, so I've covered them already, LOL.)

51 posted on 08/04/2008 6:30:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Thank you Dith Pran for showing us what Communism brings)
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To: keepitreal

I didn’t mean to imply that going to China (or Russia) to adopt a child wasn’t a good thing. But it does add to the cost and anyone seeking to adopt will need to consider it.

Its a tragedy that there are willing parents who would take these children but they lack the $30k to complete the process.

Conditions for orphans and the extremely poor are terrible in so many parts of the world. In most cases its due to the government and corruption preventing people from caring for themselves. This is the global community that people like Obama seek to bring to America.


52 posted on 08/04/2008 7:08:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Teacher317

Of course we know it can mean both, but my gut tells me that they did not opt to call this little girl “no-name” and the fact that the article makes this claim causes me to question its objectivity.


53 posted on 08/04/2008 7:13:37 AM PDT by compound w
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To: catroina54

Here are two agencies that should give you straight information- we used LMI to adopt two from Russia- agencies often have delays or holds in certain countries as the international siruation changes. It is a stressful process but LMI was patiet and helpful with us. The director Lori Scott also runs some charitable programs related to sponsorship of nonadoptable kids

http://www.littlemiracles.org/

http://www.wacap.org/
http://www.wacap.org/Adoption-Domestic-International.asp

I include WACAP because they do domestic and international adoptions, have some creative financing programs and reduced fees for some children with special needs

Ballpark estimate to adopt from Russia- $30-$40,000. Travel is expensive and the Russian govt keeps adding expensive requirements. But once the child is adopted, the child is yours- no changes of heart by the birth parents, no court battles to reclaim the child. Peace of mind that is often lacking in domestic adoption


54 posted on 08/04/2008 7:18:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: driftdiver

The expense is difficult. Unfortunately, it’s not just the foreign government, but ours too. There’s a lot of red tape (and more every year) here in the US. Half the expense goes to the US portion of adoption.

Travel is one significant expense of the whole process, but it is, in my opinion, a necessary component.

Have a good day!


55 posted on 08/04/2008 7:20:07 AM PDT by keepitreal ("I'm Barack Obama and I approve this message. . . until I don't.")
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To: driftdiver
"The male over female is a reaction by desperate parents to the govt atrocities. The asian cultures certainly value males more than females but its a deeper issue. Parents depend on their kids for support when they get old. Girls cannot support their parents."

56 posted on 08/04/2008 11:57:21 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: driftdiver
"The male over female is a reaction by desperate parents to the govt atrocities. The asian cultures certainly value males more than females but its a deeper issue. Parents depend on their kids for support when they get old. Girls cannot support their parents."
 
 
Is that right? My wife bought a home for her parents and paid for her sister's college education.

57 posted on 08/04/2008 11:59:07 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: nmh

Mei Ming—whose name means “No Name” in Chinese...

Actually, it does mean that.

 

Only when the name appears in English with no tone markings. Somehow I doubt the little girls name is written as "没名" in Chinese. Sorry to disappoint you.


58 posted on 08/04/2008 12:06:18 PM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: Dr. Marten

is what right? That traditionally women in Asia don’t have a lot of earning power? That some parents give preference to boys?

What exactly are you saying I’m wrong about. I’ve lived there for 3 years and have seen the treatment first hand. Some women are treated great. I’ve also seen a man beating his wife in the middle of the street while cops looked on keeping bystanders away.

Or do you deny that girl babies are being killed by their parents?


59 posted on 08/04/2008 12:23:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasnÂ’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Dr. Marten
Only when the name appears in English with no tone markings. Somehow I doubt the little girls name is written as "没名" in Chinese. Sorry to disappoint you. LOL! Hubby is Chinese. He knows what he speaks of. You are NOT Chinese.
60 posted on 08/04/2008 12:34:34 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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