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To: hosepipe
With all due respect, Hosepipe, you are very mistaken. This kind of thinking is pernicious, and waters down God's message.

Enroll in a Pentateuch, Koine Greek, Theology 101, Hermeneutics, and Comparative Theology course ASAP.

What you are saying sounds syncretistic. Christianity isn't syncretistic.

For those of you who uninformed, please be aware that what he is saying might sound appealing, but it is false, and I would hate to see any of you led astray.

The "all roads lead to God" fallacy is quite prevalent in our culture and is nothing more than a New Age fad.

Christianity makes exclusive truth claims: Christianity's God is unique, its pathway to salvation, and other tenets are likewise unique. (By "exclusive," it is meant that if Christianity is correct, then Islam cannot be, Hinduism cannot be true, etc.) Any basic (and well-taught from a Christian perspective) theology course will reveal this much.

By extension, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, etc., all would make their own exclusive truth claims as well--if you belief in Islam's pathway to salvation, it doesn't agree with Christianity's. And Hinduism's afterlife doesn't comport with the Jewish perspective on it. They're all mutually exclusive.

Either one of the beliefs is right...or we're all wrong. Pretty simple.

But they can't ALL be correct. It's not a logical option.

Oh, and another thing: your statement So primates could evolve from human to "something else" indicates a complete lack of understanding of Pentateuch (Genesis especially).

Are you saying that God didn't make man "good enough"--that we're in an evolutionary process? If so, what DIRECTS this process? Random chance? Nothing Divine?

No, this would be un-Biblical. Genesis teaches that God made man, pronounced him very, very (2 "verys") good--no other aspect of Creation received that compliment. No other aspect of Creation was physcially "touched" by God (this is important!). God touched us, blessed us twice (very, very good), and breathed his spirit into Man to give him life. A very personalized touch.

No, we are beloved by God. There is all the evidence to show this. We're not on our way to anything, especially any random-driven "something else."

Beware those New Age philosophies--they're pernicious.

Sauron

5 posted on 08/14/2008 9:34:01 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: sauron; Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ Are you saying that God didn't make man "good enough"--that we're in an evolutionary process? If so, what DIRECTS this process? Random chance? Nothing Divine? ]

YES.. man is not good enough?.. The next question would be good enough for what?.. Which is another conversation..

What directs this process?.. Simply the Holy Spirit..
The Holy Spirit(Paraclete) directs this process..
Religion takes the Holy Spirit out of the loop.. all of them..
Religion treats the Holy Spirit like a doofus or moron..

The Holy Spirit is the authority and originator of the process..
A very present help in trouble and decision and spiritual understanding..
Without the Holy Spirit you have merely dogma and tradition.. i.e. corporate folly....

Playing church/synagogue/temple/shrine or sheep pen (John ch 10)..
Or Glorified Cargo Cultism.. depending on talisman, amulet and totems...
The Holy Spirit is out of the Loop..

Who "Has" the Holy Spirit, then?..
It is not whether you have the Holy Spirit but does the Holy Spirit have YOU...
If he does, he does, if he doesn't he doesn't..
All the posturing, acting and spiritual masks are a childish ruse..
It is quite a wonderful plan, I would say..

The Holy Spirit is BOSS.. without the Holy Spirit all are whistling past the graveyard..
Only to find out eventually the Holy Spirit was available and present and operable and a very present help in these troubling questions.. Religion is just a dramatical play.. about a very real personal relationship.. with actors, ALL of them..

When its real, it isn't an act.. You know, and are known..
Known by whom?.. Now thats the question.. (ref: John ch 10)..

9 posted on 08/14/2008 10:08:39 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: sauron

(You missed the < sarc> tag.)


19 posted on 08/14/2008 1:17:55 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sauron

I’m late to this thread, but I thought you gave a very well thought out and measured reply. You sound like a devoted and well read Christian. I tend to avoid these religious threads because people become so nasty so quickly, but I wanted to let you know that I read every word you wrote and thought you said it well, both in content and in tone. Many blessings!


32 posted on 08/16/2008 1:00:48 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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