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To: Alex Murphy
I rarely have time to post anymore, but the following caught my eye...

The church markets to men through the events promoted, down to the colors and design of the building. The church even changes the range of the worship songs so men can feel comfortable singing. “Everything we do when it comes to marketing is geared toward men in the 25-45 range … an underserved demographic in the church market today,” said Michael Gray, communications coordinator of Christ Church of the Valley. The church offers activities like motorcycle and sport groups. One of the groups is called The Edge. There men can rappel down cliffs, jump out of airplanes and bungee jump off bridges. The purpose is to cause men to take a step of faith and stretch their comfort zones. The ministry is a spiritually challenging group, not just physically challenging.

Isn't anyone else appalled by these ideas and easy use of the terms "marketing" and "promotion" when referring to church attendance? It reminds me of that distinctly liberal tactic of "Framing the Message" in order to bring more bodies in. You only need to "frame" the message if the message doesn't stand on it's own merit.

10 posted on 08/15/2008 12:15:08 PM PDT by BMiles2112
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To: BMiles2112
Why would a man go where God isn't. I mean if I want to be entertained I have football, beer, video games, fishing, in other words alot more things to do than sit around a church that is run by a pastor who is run by his wife. These ridiculous churches are not "geared toward men" but geared toward women who hope this crap will seduce their husbands into going.

I can talk to God daily while working, why join a bunch of unbelievers at a social gathering. Remember that Eve was deceived of the Devil but Adam just listened to his wife.

13 posted on 08/15/2008 12:32:40 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: BMiles2112

I am not appalled at all. If you want men to come to church honor them and plan things that appeal to them. My church is about 50/50 and we have many programs for men.


15 posted on 08/15/2008 12:34:45 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: BMiles2112

>>Isn’t anyone else appalled by these ideas and easy use of the terms “marketing” and “promotion” when referring to church attendance?<<

Not me. I consider marketing to be like money. It is not a good or bad thing in itself. Depends on how it is being used. I believe all of life is sales. I suppose that all of life is marketing as well. The word has a very broad definition.

It would be quite easy to make the case that Jesus was marketing and promoting. Heck, I promote the idea of grace every chance I get.


26 posted on 08/15/2008 12:57:08 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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