Update: Biden skips Mass where new Bishop speaks out against him

American Papist ^ | September 9, 2008 | Thomas Peters

[Kevmo]

I’ve seen something like that, thanks. I just wonder if ELS thinks this puts Biden on the extreme. I said, “Sarah Palin will use this against him when he brings up her “extremist views”.”

Palin will have to defend `fairly extreme views,’ Biden says

09/08/2008 11:15:49 AM PDT · by pissant · 73 replies · 1,627+ views
Olympain | 9/8/08 | Steven Schultze
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2077501/posts

[Salvation]

From a new list:

1. Bishop Glen Provost, LA: "Catholic Church clear on when human life begins"

{Last updated on September 9th.}

Note: #23 has been removed. Bishop Joseph Gossman of Raleigh, NC is actually the bishop emeritus, and the new bishop, Michael Burbidge has not, to my knowledge, made a personal statement.

[ELS]

I just wonder if ELS thinks this puts Biden on the extreme.

I think Biden's political views regarding abortion put him in the extreme.

[topher]

The restriction on the Archdiocese of Atlanta, Diocese of Charlotte and Diocese of Savannah is quite specific. And it can only be rescinded by a pro-abortion politician seeing the Bishop in those Dioceses...

I believe it is spelled out in the Document Worthy to Receive. A friend of mine was the Judicial Vicar of the Archdiocese of Atlanta...

A copy of the document is on the Priests for Life website:

http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-08-04communiontoproaborts.htm

[topher]

You have to read this from Bishop Emeritus Garcida of the Diocese of Corpus Christi:

http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/04-10-01gracida.htm

In my posting from Archbishop (now Emeritus) John Francis Donogue he states that pro-abortion politicians may not receive communion.

Bishop Emeritus Gracida talks about the subject, but he also explains the confusion about the rules giving communion.

[topher]

Senator Biden and other pro-abortion politicians should not receive communion anywhere, which is true.

I have only found that the Archdiocese of Atlanta, and the Dioceses of Charlotte and Savannah have a specific prohibition on Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians -- a prohibition that can only be lifted by the Bishop.

Probably the best statement is one by Cardinal Arinze:

[Note: I am changed the format of the article by Cardinal Arinze to add emphasis to his remarks...

http://www.priestsforlife.org/magisterium/bishops/arinze05-11.htm

Remarks from Cardinal Arinze on pro-choice politicians and Holy Communion

November 14, 2005

Inside The Vatican: Recently, an issue that has been given a lot of attention are the moral obligations of Catholics during election times. Is it a duty of them to vote for pro-life politicians, and should those Catholic pro-choice politicians be given communion?

ARINZE: You are asking me if a politician says, "I vote for abortion, and I will continue to ask for abortion." Then you ask should he be given holy communion. So, you are really saying, this politician says, "I vote for the killing of unborn children." Because we call things by their names. And he calls that pro-choice.

Suppose somebody voted for the killing of all the members of the House of Representatives,

"for all of you being killed. I call that pro-choice. Moreover, I am going to receive Holy Communion next Sunday."

Then you ask me, should he be given communion. My reply, "Do you really need a cardinal from the Vatican to answer that question?

" Can a child having made his First Communion not answer that question? Is it really so complicated? The child will give the correct answer immediately, unless he is conditioned by political correctness.

It is a pity, cardinals have to be asked such questions.

If a person has a way of life which is against the major Commandments, and makes a boast of it, then the person is in a state which is publicly sinful. It is he who has disqualified himself, not the priest or the bishop. He should not go to communion, until his life should be in line with the Gospel.