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Scientology compatible with other religions
Coeur d'Alene (Idaho) Press ^ | Friday, Sep 12, 2008 - 10:52:33 pm PDT | Sholeh Patrick

Posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:58 PM PDT by narses

Continuing the Saturday series on minority religions, a glimpse of Scientology:

Spanning 129 countries and about 500,000 members, Scientologists rank 22nd among world religions. It may be difficult for a full count, as it is more applied philosophy than religion, and thus allows members to belong to other faiths and still fully practice Scientology. Half of Scientologists also report being Christians.

The Church of Scientology was founded in 1954, based on the teachings of Louisiana-born author Lafayette Ron Hubbard. His family moved to Montana when he was 2 (1913), where he befriended Blackfoot Indians and began a personal spiritual journey. By 1923 he lived in Seattle, becoming the youngest Eagle Scout in history. After many more travels in the U.S. and abroad, observing so much human suffering, Hubbard began to write his 5,000 books, essays and articles on how to improve oneself, which comprise the teachings of Scientology.

The word Scientology comes from the Latin word "scio" meaning "knowing," and the Greek word "logos" meaning "study of." Scientologists believe:

• Man is an immortal spiritual being with unlimited capabilities.

• His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime.

• Man consists of three parts: spirit ("thetan"), the mind (for communication and control of spirit), and the body.

• Man is basically good; his spiritual salvation depends upon his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.

• Every man is capable of solving his own problems, accomplishing his goals, and gaining lasting happiness.

• No one is asked to accept anything as belief or on faith. That which is true for you is what you have observed to be true. Each individual discovers truth for himself through observation, self-awareness, and experience. This is why Scientology is compatible with nearly any other religion.

• Dianetics (Greek "dia" (through) and "nous" (soul) is what the soul does to the body. It refers to a method to increase sanity, intelligence, confidence, and well-being by eliminating unwanted emotions and psychosomatic ills, addressing the unconscious. This method is the foundation for survival, health, and happiness.

Scientologists are highly active in the global community, making numerous humanitarian missions to impoverished communities here and across the oceans. For much more information see www.scientology.org/home.html.

Coming up: Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, and more.

Sholeh Patrick is a columnist for the Hagadone News Network. E-mail sholehjo@hotmail.com


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Other non-Christian
KEYWORDS: notareligion; scamartists

1 posted on 09/14/2008 12:03:58 PM PDT by narses
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2 posted on 09/14/2008 12:04:25 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

Maybe on Neptune or the Crab Nebula.


3 posted on 09/14/2008 12:05:56 PM PDT by OpusatFR (As we bicker about faith, the faithful are witnesses by their martyrdom.)
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To: narses

Since Scientology doesn’t teach the existence of a divine creator, I don’t consider it to be a religion. It’s a belief system but not a religion.


4 posted on 09/14/2008 12:15:11 PM PDT by reg45
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To: narses

Religions are dogmatic, and therefore incompatible by nature. The only two I would consider in the ballpark are Judaism and Christianity.


5 posted on 09/14/2008 12:37:03 PM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: narses

gag


6 posted on 09/14/2008 12:54:09 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: OpusatFR

The Clam Nebula - see www.xenu.net this is about a clambake.


7 posted on 09/14/2008 1:09:23 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: OpusatFR

http://xenu.net/


8 posted on 09/14/2008 1:12:14 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: GOP Poet

A clam allergy?


9 posted on 09/14/2008 1:25:47 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

Science Fiction creation that skipped the YoPis


10 posted on 09/14/2008 1:43:44 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: narses
Classical Christian Answers to Scientology:

• Man is an immortal spiritual being with unlimited capabilities.

Wrong: Man created by God is a physical being with a soul. As a creature, he is finite in his capabilities. At the last Judgment, the dead will rise in new bodies--to eternally enjoy Heaven or despair Hell.

• His experience extends well beyond a single lifetime.

Wrong, reincarnation is an illusion: "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment..." (Hebrews 9:27)

• Man consists of three parts: spirit ("thetan"), the mind (for communication and control of spirit), and the body.

Scripture only mentions two parts, body and spirit or soul. The words for a human spirit and soul are used interchangeably. A minority view amidst Christians is we are 3 parts, body, soul, and spirit.

• Man is basically good; his spiritual salvation depends upon his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.

Man was created basically good, but due to his own will, fell into sin. This fallen nature Adam passed on to all his progeny. A fallen nature retains the image of God, but is flawed--hence all humans are mixture of good and evil. Salvation is a free gift found in the unique sinless God-Man, Jesus Christ.

• Every man is capable of solving his own problems, accomplishing his goals, and gaining lasting happiness.

Without the grace of God given in Jesus, every man is helpless to attain goals that ultimately matter, and eternal happiness.

• No one is asked to accept anything as belief or on faith. That which is true for you is what you have observed to be true. Each individual discovers truth for himself through observation, self-awareness, and experience. This is why Scientology is compatible with nearly any other religion.

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." (Hebrews 11:6)

• Dianetics (Greek "dia" (through) and "nous" (soul) is what the soul does to the body. It refers to a method to increase sanity, intelligence, confidence, and well-being by eliminating unwanted emotions and psychosomatic ills, addressing the unconscious. This method is the foundation for survival, health, and happiness.

"For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come." (I Tim. 4:8)

11 posted on 09/14/2008 2:31:56 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
"Scripture only mentions two parts, body and spirit or soul. The words for a human spirit and soul are used interchangeably. A minority view amidst Christians is we are 3 parts, body, soul, and spirit."

Wrong: We are made in the image of God. god is triune we are triune. Pauls prayed

1st Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

A great book that goes into the details of the 3 part man is Watchman Nee's book Spiritual Man.

12 posted on 09/14/2008 2:57:57 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: reg45

The Supreme Court once ruled that Secular Humanism is a religion...Scientology, cultish as it is, is a religion!


13 posted on 09/14/2008 8:02:43 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: narses

No mention of the bet with John W. Campbell (IIRC) that he (Hubbard) could start a successful fake religion?


14 posted on 09/14/2008 9:20:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Nope. Not gonna do it.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

1 Thess 5:23 is known as a proof text for tripartism and can easily be understood as Paul doing a typically Hebraic practice of repeating synonyms for emphasis (just like we even say, “first and foremost,” or, “null and void”). Elsewhere its clear Paul uses “soul” and “spirit” interchangeably.

Scripture says we are created in God’s image; it never says human beings have a trinity, “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” nature.

But of course this is an issue which orthodox Christians differ. If you want to agree with the non-Christian Scientologist cult on this, go ahead.

Like I said,”A minority view amidst Christians is we are 3 parts, body, soul, and spirit.”


15 posted on 09/14/2008 9:20:46 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

There are dichotomous and trichotomous views of man’s anthropology.

The Old Testament calls on the the nephesh as being God breathed life in the man. Plants do not have nephesh, but animals do have nephesh and part of the reason why the blood sacrifice of the animal was acceptable to God, while Cain’s plant sacrifice was lesser.

The NT refers to the soul as being composed of the heart and the mind.

The sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, was in reference to His soul being given.

Upon faith alone iin Christ alone, God the Holy Spirit regenerates the human spirit, distinct from the mind or heart.


16 posted on 09/14/2008 9:40:01 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
No mention of the bet with John W. Campbell (IIRC) that he (Hubbard) could start a successful fake religion?

Or was it Joseph Campbell? My memory is hazy too.

17 posted on 09/14/2008 10:01:50 PM PDT by Octar
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L. Ron Hubbard: “There was no Christ.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrMJUDkDWqc&feature=related


18 posted on 09/14/2008 10:09:47 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: AnalogReigns
"If you want to agree with the non-Christian Scientologist cult on this, go ahead'.

I would have to say that they agree with most Christians.

Please show me where Paul has used spirit and soul interchangeable. If you look at the Greek words they are different and if Paul wrote the letters then when he used soul that is what he meant and when he used spirit that is what he meant.

19 posted on 09/14/2008 10:26:28 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Psalm 83:1-8 is on the horizon.)
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To: narses
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20 posted on 09/15/2008 3:55:10 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: narses
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21 posted on 09/15/2008 3:55:17 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: AnalogReigns

This is a great rundown on counter arguments. Sci is completely incompatible with all psychological and spiritual belief systems. Scilons believe only Hubbard tech is capable of saving the planet, and must replace all other mental-health and spiritual practices.

Their repeatedly stated goal is to eradicate psychiatry from the face of the earth. That includes all other mental-health professions. AND religious counseling.

Scilons are simply lying when they say it is compatible. The training dox for their upper Operation Thetan levels are explicit you cannot engage in any other practices. In fact, at that level you get interrogated with an e-meter (=lie detector) about it.

CoS has a whole program to neutralize the churches. They get into local inter-faith councils and hawk their public Way to Happiness blah blah, and get the other churches to accept them. Meanwhile, the real doctrine of incompatibility is hidden, along with the lie detector interrogations, the policy of coerced abortions in its religious order, the Sea Org, along with a whole raft of other human rights violations.

David von Marca uncovered a situation in Sacramento where the scilons were participating in a 9/11 commemoration and wrote an open letter to bishops in Sacto and SF on a Catholic Answers forum: Letter to some bishops on Scientology’s disgraceful participation in today’s 9/11 commemoration in Sacramento

“Dear Fathers in Christ, it is an imperative of ethics, moral and social justice, that the Church completely disconnect itself from corporate Scientology and all its works and pomps.”

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?p=4166955#post4166955


22 posted on 09/20/2008 6:47:53 AM PDT by SF South Park Republican (Clearing the Planet, one scilon at a time)
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