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To: the_conscience

I am a Protestant who loves many aspects of the Catholic Church. However, I must be frank ... to many outsiders, it appears, more than ever, to be the haven of timid, retiring intellectuals and perverts. If you are concerned about the image, this needs to be addressed pronto. (of course, image isn’t everything.)


2 posted on 09/24/2008 7:34:39 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: dinoparty

Why would any Catholic give a fig what a Protestant thinks of our Church? Let them go to their meeting halls and follow the Men who founded their sects (Luther, Calvin, et. al.)


4 posted on 09/24/2008 7:59:41 PM PDT by sobieski
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To: dinoparty
The image problem is real - because it has been caused by Catholics who do epitomize this image.

Discipline has been inexcusably lax - particularly at the diocesan level.

8 posted on 09/24/2008 8:10:41 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: dinoparty
However, I must be frank ... to many outsiders, it appears, more than ever, to be the haven of timid, retiring intellectuals and perverts.

In reality, nowhere close to true. We have our fair share of tepid sorts and those who abuse position. That's just reality. Our leadership is in the midst of transition by attrition (unfortunately). The not so hot bishops are slowly being replaced with orthodox ones (who aren't liked by the "intellectuals") as they retire. There's a number of other things going on.

One thing that I came across somewhere along the line is that after a council - any council and there have been 22 - for about 50 years, chaos happens. We're in the last 10 years of the chaotic cycle. Things are tightening again, although not at the same rate everywhere. One direct result of this tightening will be the evolution of more stereotypes. Oh, well.

18 posted on 09/24/2008 8:42:03 PM PDT by Desdemona (Lipstick only until the election. The gloss has been sacrificed for the greater good.)
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