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To: thefrankbaum
Back to front...the minority opinion has ordinarily been correct, all things considered. That yours is “Christian” might possibly be only in your mind.

Certainly true that the “traditions” are not reliable when they teach another gospel than the Scriptures. Giving her what is “due” in your world view borders on blasphemy in my world. We will need to agree to disagree.

My view of the hypostatic union of the theanthropic person is intact and biblical. If the RCC elevates sinful men beyond decent respect (which I hold for Mary, Abraham, David, Peter, Paul, etc.) into Sainthood with a perverted sense of adoration, then I remind you to beware of idolatry.

Finally, I am not altogether sure we are brothers in Christ, if by that appellation you would require adherence to Rome's love of its manufactured traditions. Mary is a sinner saved by grace, like any Christian, and the ground is level at the foot of the cross.

From here in the Body of Christ, it appears as though the folks elevating people are round-aboutly elevating themselves.

56 posted on 10/22/2008 9:37:15 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
Back to front...the minority opinion has ordinarily been correct, all things considered

Do you feel that way about the Mormons? Jehovah's Witnesses? Swedenborgians? Montanists? Gnostics? Marcionists?

Certainly true that the “traditions” are not reliable when they teach another gospel than the Scriptures.

But when the Scriptures are not clear on the matter, or silent, what shall we do? Tradition clarifies Scripture - they are two sides of the same Word, oral and written.

I am not altogether sure we are brothers in Christ

Anyone baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is a brother in Christ. you would require adherence to Rome's love of its manufactured traditions

Manufactured in your opinion.

Mary is a sinner saved by grace, like any Christian, and the ground is level at the foot of the cross.

Never said she wasn't saved by Grace. In fact, Gabriel recognized this - she was "full of Grace" from the get-go. Just because God bestowed His Grace on her ahead of time doesn't mean she was saved by it any less. And the ground in level in that we all need Grace, not beyond that.

From here in the Body of Christ, it appears as though the folks elevating people are round-aboutly elevating themselves.

Must be nice to have that vantage point. May God have mercy on me, a sinner.

57 posted on 10/22/2008 10:06:42 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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