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Angels bring us great help and consolation, Pope Benedict reminds
CNA ^ | September 29, 2008

Posted on 09/29/2008 4:35:35 PM PDT by NYer

Vatican City, Sep 29, 2008 / 10:29 am (CNA).- Pope Benedict XVI will complete his stay at the papal summer residence tomorrow, and as final preparations are being made for his return to Rome, he addressed the local bishop, religious, local civil authorities and security personnel on the topic of angels.

Today marks the Feast of the Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, the Pope pointed out to Bishop Marcello Semeraro of Albano (the diocese in which Castelgandolfo is located) and the assembled crowd. With this Feast in mind, he prayed, "let us trustingly invoke their help, and the protection of the Guardian Angels, whose feast we will celebrate in a few day's time, on October 2."

Although angels are not visible, their presence "brings us great help and consolation: they walk at our side and protect us in all circumstances, they defend us from danger, and to them we can turn at any moment," Benedict XVI explained.

He further added that, "Many saints established bonds of real friendship with the angels, and numerous episodes testify to their assistance on particular occasions. Angels are sent by God 'to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation' as the Letter to the Hebrews says, hence they are a real help to us on the pilgrimage towards the heavenly homeland."

This afternoon, the Pope is due to bid farewell to the staff of the Pontifical Villas at Castel Gandolfo, before returning to the Vatican tomorrow.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
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1 posted on 09/29/2008 4:35:36 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

I would encourage all of you to get to know your guardian angel.


2 posted on 09/29/2008 4:37:17 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

What a lovely message..thnx for sharing.


3 posted on 09/29/2008 4:40:32 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting!
I needed this today!


4 posted on 09/29/2008 4:43:10 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: All
And, from Zenit News Agency.


CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy, SEPT. 29, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI bid farewell to the religious, civil and military staff of the papal summer residence of Castel Gandolfo as he prepares to return to the Vatican on Tuesday.

The Pontiff received the personnel in an audience today, expressing his "sincere gratitude" to the "great family of Castel Gandolfo."

He thanked the religious and civil authorities of Castel Gandolfo for their hospitality, especially Bishop Marcello Semeraro of Albano, the local parish priest and the municipality Castel Gandolfo, located in the Lazio region of Italy.

The Holy Father also greeted the administrative personnel of the Vatican Governorate, as well as the Italian forces of order and the Vatican police, whom he remembered especially today on the feast of St. Michael, their patron.

He also thanked the 31st Flight Unit of the Italian Air Force, responsible for transporting the Pope via helicopter from Castel Gandolfo.

The papal summer residence of Castel Gandolfo, on the shores of Lake Albano, has been used by Popes since the 17th century, and is one of the extra-territorial properties of Vatican City State, established in the Lateran Pacts of 1929. Pope Pius XII died there in 1958, as did Pope Paul VI in 1978.

5 posted on 09/29/2008 4:43:24 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Where in the Bible does it say Michael, Gabriel and Raphael are archangels? I know Gabriel stands in the presence of God but how do we know they are THE archangels? Also, where in scripture is Raphael’s name mentioned?

I am interested in this very much and not necessarily questioning your post. I know Michael and Gabriel’s names are both specifically mentioned in Scripture, as is Lucifer, the only other angel I remember being called by name. Of course, he defected.


6 posted on 09/29/2008 4:48:53 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: NYer

Don’t want to hurt your feelings but I think this personal guardian angel thing sounds a little new-age to me. I think we are all protected by hosts of angels. If you have scriptural evidence for just ONE, I’d like to see it. I’m just curious.

Thanks!!!


7 posted on 09/29/2008 4:49:47 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: NYer

“I would encourage all of you to get to know your guardian angel.”

I have always loved the Archangel Michael.

My uncle Mike was my Godfather.

I chose Michael for my Confirmation Name.


8 posted on 09/29/2008 4:53:24 PM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: NYer

NYer, has the Catholic church ever said for sure that we have individual guardian angels? I’d sure like to know that I do.


9 posted on 09/29/2008 4:55:38 PM PDT by kitkat (EX DEO LIBERTAS (From God, liberty))
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To: NYer
I would encourage all of you to get to know your guardian angel.

Mine has been pretty busy of late. The angel knows I definitely appreciate it.

BTW, just as an aside, we were doing the Faure Requiem last year and the guest conductor said, "There are two things about angels in the Bible - they have no sex and no vrabrato" hence why I was not in the semi-chorus for the Angelorum.

10 posted on 09/29/2008 5:07:06 PM PDT by Desdemona (Lipstick only until the election. The gloss has been sacrificed for the greater good.)
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To: NYer
I would encourage all of you to get to know your guardian angel.

How would one go about doing that? Not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know how.

11 posted on 09/29/2008 5:08:01 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Paved Paradise

Please don’t pollute a Catholic thread with your sola scriptura nonsense. Go elsewhere for that.


12 posted on 09/29/2008 5:33:03 PM PDT by jddqr (White queen checkmates black king: http://palincheckmate.com)
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To: NYer

How do we get to know out guardian angel?

Other than once I get to met them face to face, he will probably be a little miffed over all the extra work I made him when I was learning to drive.


13 posted on 09/29/2008 5:43:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Paved Paradise
You will find Raphael in the book of Tobias, the very end of Chapter 3 and subsequent chapters.

It's one of the Deuterocanonical books (called Apocrypha by most Protestants) that were in the Hebrew Scriptures as accepted at the time of Christ (the LXX or Septuagint), but removed by the Jewish rabbis later in history. Since the King James was translated from the Hebrew Scriptures extant in 1611, the Deuterocanonical books were omitted.

But when you see OT quotes in the NT, they are almost always from the LXX. So there's no good reason to omit them, and most study Bibles include them now.

14 posted on 09/29/2008 5:43:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Paved Paradise

The words of Jesus in Matthew 18:10: “Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.”


15 posted on 09/29/2008 5:44:54 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Blessed Martyrs of Compiegne, Pray for us!)
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To: Paved Paradise
Where in the Bible does it say Michael, Gabriel and Raphael are archangels?

That's actually Tradition - that which is passed down.

I know Gabriel stands in the presence of God but how do we know they are THE archangels?

Well, they're not the only ones. Names that end in -iel and -ael are archangels. Again, that's Tradition.

Also, where in scripture is Raphael’s name mentioned?

The book of Tobit or Tobias (Douhay-Rhiems translation). Tobit is Helenistic Hebrew, not part of the Jerusalem Hebrew books and as such was called into question at the Council of Carthage when the Canon was closed. The 13 books that were called into question are known as the Deuterocanonicals. THere are seven in the Old Testament and six in the new. At the time of Luther's revolt, he took them out of his edition of the Bible, only restoring the New Testament books, thus why protestants do not know the Old Testament books. Really rather sad, actually, as Tobit, Sirach, and Wisdom have some of the most beautiful passages in the entire Bible, IMO.

16 posted on 09/29/2008 5:45:28 PM PDT by Desdemona (Lipstick only until the election. The gloss has been sacrificed for the greater good.)
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To: ottbmare
You can start with this short prayer:

"Angel of God, my guardian dear,
To whom God's love commits me here,
Ever this day be at my side,
To light and guard, to rule and guide."

17 posted on 09/29/2008 5:48:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks, you are always such a help.


18 posted on 09/29/2008 5:51:05 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: redgolum

Talk to them during the day and ask him/her to protect you. Some people even give their Guadian Angel a name.


19 posted on 09/29/2008 5:58:15 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kitkat
More information in these FR links....

God Sends His Angels to Watch Over and Guide Us

Angels, Part 3

Angels, Part 2

Angels, Part 1

Angels Among Us Today

God Created the Angels as Individual, Immortal Spirits with Intelligence and Free Will

The Angels in Sacred Scripture

Angels in the History of the Church

Angels - in Heaven, on Earth and in Hell

Catholic Q&A: Angels and Demons (Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer)

GOD AND THE ANGELS

Question: “Are there really such things as guardian angels?”

20 posted on 09/29/2008 6:00:33 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kitkat

Five pages from the Catechism of the Catholic Church on angels:

http://ccc.scborromeo.org.master.com/texis/master/search/?sufs=0&q=angels&s=SS


21 posted on 09/29/2008 6:02:34 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: kitkat

How about during the Mass?

Countless hosts of angels stand before you to do your will;
they look upon your splendor
and praise you, night and day.
United with them
and in the name of every creature under heave,
we too praise your glory as we say:

Holy, Holy, Holy Lord
God of power and might
Heaven and earth are full of your glory.
Hosanna in the highest, hosanna in the highest,
hosanna in the highest!

Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord,
Hosanna in the highest, hosanna in the highest,
hosanna in the highest!


22 posted on 09/29/2008 6:08:19 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Oops

and in the name of every creature under heaven,


23 posted on 09/29/2008 6:09:12 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for your reply, Salvation.


24 posted on 09/29/2008 6:41:46 PM PDT by kitkat (EX DEO LIBERTAS (From God, liberty))
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To: NYer

Archangels Michael, Gabriel and Raphael were created to do battle with the devil were they not?


25 posted on 09/29/2008 6:48:34 PM PDT by alarm rider (Peace! through superior fire power....)
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To: NYer

My three year old son nearly drowned a week ago. I have no doubt that his guardian angels were with him that day. Not a doubt.


26 posted on 09/29/2008 7:19:48 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: NYer; Salvation
Ye holy Angels bright
Richard Baxter
Tune:Darwall's 148th

Ye holy Angels bright, Which stand before God's throne,
And dwell in glorious light, Praise ye the Lord each one.
You there so nigh Are much more meet
Than we the feet, For things so high.

You blessed souls at rest That see your Saviour's face,
Whose glory, even the least, Is far above our grace;
God's praises sound, As in his sight
With sweet delight You do abound.

All nations of the earth, Extol the world's great King;
With melody and mirth His glorious praises sing.
For he still reigns; And will bring low
The proudest foe That him disdains.

Sing forth Jehovah's praise, Ye saints that on him call;
Magnify him always; His holy churches all
In him rejoice;And there proclaim
His Holy Name With sounding voice.

27 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:54 PM PDT by lightman (Sarah Palin: A REAL woman, not an empty pantsuit!)
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To: ottbmare
No problem!

I've never seen or heard my Guardian Angel -- but I'm sure he or she is seriously overworked!

When my daughter was tiny (could barely speak plain) she told me that she saw "a pretty lady" sitting in a tree outside her bedroom window, that she had golden hair and was dressed in white. Don't know if it was her guardian angel or not, but she's always been a very good child!

28 posted on 09/29/2008 8:11:07 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: lightman
I learned a slightly different version:

Ye holy angels bright,
who wait at God's right hand,
or through the realms of light
fly at your Lord's command,
assist our song,
for else the theme
too high doth seem
for mortal tongue.

Ye blessed souls at rest,
who ran this earthly race
and now, from sin released,
behold your Savior's face,
his praises sound,
as in his sight
with sweet delight
ye do abound.

Ye saints, who toil below,
adore your heavenly King,
and onward as ye go
some joyful anthem sing;
take what he gives
and praise him still,
through good or ill,
who ever lives!

My soul, bear thou thy part,
triumph in God above:
and with a well-tuned heart
sing thou the songs of love!
Let all thy days
till life shall end,
whate'er he send,
be filled with praise!

Darwall's 148th is a great hymn tune. The descant on the 4th verse is awesome.

29 posted on 09/29/2008 8:16:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: alarm rider

St. Michael — Warrior
St. Gabriel — Messenger (See Nativity narritives)
St. Raphael — Healer


30 posted on 09/29/2008 8:40:34 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: alarm rider

More information here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2092868/posts


31 posted on 09/29/2008 8:41:47 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AnAmericanMother

There are many more verses than the ones we have posted.

Pardon the lack of formatting, here is the complete text:

Ye holy Angels bright, Which stand before God’s throne, And dwell in glorious light, Praise ye the Lord each one. You there so nigh Are much more meet Than we the feet, For things so high.

You blessed souls at rest That see your Saviour’s face, Whose glory, even the least, Is far above our grace; God’s praises sound, As in his sight With sweet delight You do abound.

All nations of the earth, Extol the world’s great King; With melody and mirth His glorious praises sing. For he still reigns; And will bring low The proudest foe That him disdains.

Sing forth Jehovah’s praise, Ye saints that on him call; Magnify him always; His holy churches all In him rejoice; And there proclaim His Holy Name With sounding voice.

My soul, bear thou thy part! Triumph in God above! With a well-tuned heart Sing thou the songs of love. Thou art his own Whose precious blood, Shed for thy good, His love made known.

Though human help depart And flesh draw near to dust, Let Faith keep up my heart To love God true and just; And all my days Let no disease Cause me to cease His joyful praise.

Though sin would make me doubt, And fill my soul with fears, Though God seem to shut out My daily cries and tears, By no such frost Of sad delays Let thy sweet praise Be nipped and lost.

Away, distrustful care! I have thy promise, Lord. To banish all despair, I have thy oath and word. And therefore I Shall see thy face, And there thy grace Shall magnify.

Though sin and death conspire To rob thee of thy praise, Still towards thee I’ll aspire, And thou dull hearts canst raise. Open thy door; And when grim death Shall stop this breath I’ll praise thee more.

With thy triumphant flock Then I shall numbered be; Built on the eternal rock His glory we shall see. The heavens so high With praise shall ring. And all shall sing In harmony.

The sun is but a spark From the eternal light; Its brightest beams are dark To that most glorious sight. There the whole Chore With one accord Shall praise the Lord For evermore.


32 posted on 09/29/2008 8:49:51 PM PDT by lightman (Sarah Palin: A REAL woman, not an empty pantsuit!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

As we have discussed, I’m giving serious consideration to converting to Catholicism and all this is a little new and, um, different for me. So forgive the uninformed questions, please.

My own guardian angels must be exhausted by my insistence on dealing with the animal(s) from whom I’ve taken my user name.


33 posted on 09/29/2008 8:53:01 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: NYer

“I would encourage all of you to get to know your guardian angel.”

How?


34 posted on 09/29/2008 9:25:54 PM PDT by dsc
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To: ottbmare
Don't worry - you know I'm a convert of fairly recent vintage myself - Memorial Day weekend 2004.

I hold a slight unfair advantage because I was a High Church Episcopalian before I converted -- which is Catholic in All But Name as opposed to Catholic In Name Only. And I also read medieval history in college -- I think it was Cardinal Newman who said that to be deep in history was to become Catholic.

Ask me as many questions as you like! If I don't know the answer, I'm sure I can find it -- this house is so full of books it's ridiculous. And as I used to tell my law students, the only dumb question is the one you don't ask!

If you want a good informative general overview that might answer a lot of questions, there are a couple of books that are favorites of mine and very instructive -- Catholicism for Dummies despite the hokey title is an excellent and very readable book, by Fr. John Trigilio and Fr. Kenneth Brighenti, both of whom are good, orthodox and faithful priests. And for something a little more old-fashioned, This Is the Faith by Canon Francis Ripley, first published back in the 50s. It's aimed specifically at Anglicans, so I found it very interesting and it answered particular questions I had as an Episcopalian (which is just the American brand of Anglicanism).

35 posted on 09/30/2008 4:39:00 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: ottbmare; AnAmericanMother
How would one go about doing that? Not being sarcastic, I honestly don't know how.

AAM has posted a simple, yet beautiful prayer. You can also acknowledge your guardian angel by prayers of thanking to God for your angel's assistance.

On several occasions, when I could not be somewhere to help another person, I have sent my guardian angel in my place. Not only do they watch over us but pray for us before God.

36 posted on 09/30/2008 6:41:52 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: lightman
I wonder what the original is. Some versions mention a second author, John Hampden Gurney, who is a Victorian and probably revised and shortened the text. Puritans didn't mind four-hour sermons and 20-minute hymns . . . . but most folks nowadays definitely do! (great scene from R.L. Stevenson's David Balfour when a piece of hot political news arrives in the middle of a sermon, and the narrator remarked that the preacher never understood why he so completely lost his congregation at "Twenty-sixthly . . . ")
37 posted on 09/30/2008 6:55:04 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: ottbmare; AnAmericanMother
I’m giving serious consideration to converting to Catholicism and all this is a little new and, um, different for me.

You are in good company here. Rest assured of our assistance whenever you have a question. Might I suggest that you consider joining the catholic ping lists. Freeper Salvation maintains the Daily Mass Readings while I maintain a list for articles of interest to catholics.

Some other places of interest - EWTN - Catholic television available in most countries via cable or satellite. Monday evenings, Marcus Grodi hosts The Journey Home. Each week he welcomes a convert to share their journey and callers may ask questions. Grodi also has his own web site: Coming Home Network .

My prayers for you on this journey.

38 posted on 09/30/2008 7:01:52 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
Although angels are not visible,

Angels were certainly visible in the scriptures...I'm thinkin' your pope wouldn't know an angel if he saw one...

Heb 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.

And as far as getting to 'know your guardian angel', how do you know it's not your gaurdian devil???

39 posted on 09/30/2008 9:06:30 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: Desdemona
BTW, just as an aside, we were doing the Faure Requiem last year and the guest conductor said, "There are two things about angels in the Bible - they have no sex and no vrabrato" hence why I was not in the semi-chorus for the Angelorum.

Your conductor obviously doesn't read the bible...Every appearance of an angel in the bible is that of a 'male'...The bible does away with a lot of religious superstition...

40 posted on 09/30/2008 9:09:31 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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To: NYer

Thank you, I’m already on the Catholic pinglists. Don’t have cable so I can’t watch the TV show you recommend, but the truth is that this is not about facts and having specific questions answered. This is kind of a big frightening step for someone raised Protestant and Episcopal, and a member of a conservative nondenominational church.

I do covet your prayers as I try to figure all this out.


41 posted on 09/30/2008 10:01:25 AM PDT by ottbmare
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To: Iscool
I'm thinkin' your pope wouldn't know an angel if he saw one..

Puhlease ... such an utterly childish attack, pope Iscool.

And as far as getting to 'know your guardian angel', how do you know it's not your gaurdian devil???

Satan's minions are not impressed by acts of charity.

42 posted on 09/30/2008 2:26:45 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: jddqr

You sound like a real pal. Notice nobody else got offended. I had a legitimate question and, thankfully, several people were kind enough to answer.

So much for your “Catholic charity;” of course, I’ve had enough conversations with the other RCs on here that I know you are the minority.


43 posted on 09/30/2008 2:57:47 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks. I don’t have a big “issue” with the books that are called “Apocrypha” so if the name is in there, that works for me. I’ll have to share this with some of my friends.

I do have issue with the “personal guardian angel” thing though, which is an entirely different conversation.

I’m just thankful God has His angelic realm and that they protect us and do a host of other cool things.

Thanks again.


44 posted on 09/30/2008 3:00:45 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Desdemona

Thanks. I’d like to know a little more (like where the traditions are written or when they came about). I also believe that Michael and Gabriel are archangels but Raphael was a new one on me.

I just don’t believe in the personal angel thing. It’s way too much like the pagan beliefs. It is good enough for me to know that my Lord will send his angels to protect and guard me and I have faith in that.

BTW, how did you find out that names ending in -iel and -ael are archangels? If you have some kind of source, that’d be nice. Sometimes my bible study has discussed angels and it’d be nice to have some more info. Of course we don’t all agree either.


45 posted on 09/30/2008 3:04:10 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Carpe Cerevisi

One time I fell on the ice at the edge of my driveway - it is on a slope an goes down onto a main road where the speed limit is 45 mph but people driver far faster. I am not kidding when I tell you that when I slipped and fell, I felt no hardness at all nor did I slide to the street. It was so eerie and felt like someone gently laid me down. I have no doubt it was an angel or two that God sent to help me.

I’ve had other similar things - no doubt. I also believe your son was protected. The real question is why some children are not kept safe.

God bless and I rejoice with you that your son is safe.


46 posted on 09/30/2008 3:06:54 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: NYer

My Guardian Angel has bailed out!


47 posted on 09/30/2008 3:08:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: ottbmare
Try not to worry! Just sincere heartfelt prayer, and reading good, orthodox books, should guide you aright.

For me it all comes down to John 6, especially verses 47-58.

EWTN has a very nice website in addition to their broadcasts, and they do stream many of their shows and important events live on the internet. You can pick that up here. Just go to the top left and pull down the menu "television" to "live tv" and it gives you a lot of choices.

48 posted on 09/30/2008 3:16:52 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Paved Paradise
Well, the words of Christ in Matthew 18:10 seem to indicate plainly that at least each child has his or her own angel.

And I don't see any reason that they would abandon us when we grow up . . . .

49 posted on 09/30/2008 3:20:01 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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To: Paved Paradise
With reference to resemblance to pagan beliefs . . . .

I would highly recommend C.S. Lewis, who said, "I couldn’t believe that 999 religions were completely false and the remaining one true. . . . We are not pronouncing all other religions to be totally false, but rather saying that in Christ whatever is true in all religions is consummated and perfected."

Many of the pagan religions have foreshadowings of Christ -- the Corn God who dies and rises again, the virgin birth, etc. In Christ all these hints and foreshadowings were made plain.

But of course we don't reject the Resurrection because it appears in Egyptian or Babylonian religion as well . . . nor should we reject guardian angels.

Just don't get all New-Agey about it! < shudder! >

50 posted on 09/30/2008 3:29:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse (TTGC Ladies Auxiliary, recess appointment))
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