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To: topcat54
Yep, those immanency statements sure make the case. Just take this passage, for example:
"So it shall be when all of these things have come upon you, the blessing and the curse which I have set before you, and you call them to mind in all nations where the LORD your God has banished you, and you return to the LORD your God and obey Him with all your heart and soul according to all that I command you today, you and your sons, then the LORD your God will restore you from captivity, and have compassion on you, and will gather you again from all the peoples where the LORD your God has scattered you.

"If your outcasts are at the ends of the earth, from there the LORD your God will gather you, and from there He will bring you back. The LORD your God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it; and He will prosper you and multiply you more than your fathers.

"Moreover the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, so that you may live. The LORD your God will inflict all these curses on your enemies and on those who hate you, who persecuted you.

"And you shall again obey the LORD, and observe all His commandments which I command you today. Then the LORD your God will prosper you abundantly in all the work of your hand, in the offspring of your body and in the offspring of your cattle and in the produce of your ground, for the LORD will again rejoice over you for good, just as He rejoiced over your fathers; if you obey the LORD your God to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and soul." (Deu. 30:1-10)

And this is exactly why, before Joshua passed away, Israel went into the Land, sinned, was carried off in exile, repented, and returned to the Land, all in a single generation. /sarc

If we applied preterism's standards of how to interpret the time statements in the Bible consistently, we would also have to conclude that the Apostles screwed up in citing Isa. 7:14, Hos. 11:1, the Psalms of David, etc. to Yeshua.

You'd think that preterists would be more wary of applying an interpretive method to the prophecies of the Second Coming that would disqualify Yeshua as the object of the prophecies of the First.

Shalom.

3 posted on 10/23/2008 10:34:40 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Buggman
Yep, those immanency statements sure make the case. Just take this passage, for example:

Did you mean imminence?

And this is exactly why, before Joshua passed away, Israel went into the Land, sinned, was carried off in exile, repented, and returned to the Land, all in a single generation.

Unlike Matthew 24 and Luke 21 there is no time text ("this generation") in Deuteronomy 30. The preterist position, as you well know, is built on the presence of time texts to determine what is imminent and what is not, e.g., Rev. 1:1, "which must shortly take place".

Of course the context of Deuteronomy explicitly provides us with the multi-generational perspective (cf. Exo. 20:4) that God was giving to Israel in that day:

19 I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live; 20 that you may love the Lord your God, that you may obey His voice, and that you may cling to Him, for He is your life and the length of your days; and that you may dwell in the land which the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, to give them."
The Jews were taking an oath that would bind them and their posterity. The blessing of long life extended to "a thousand generations" (Exo. 20:5).

Yet there is no suggestion of "in the day you eat of it you shall surely die." (Gen. 2:17) as you apparently wish to read it.

But this is all Hermeneutics 101. It's not rocket science.

Shalom, my friend. Always good to hear from you.

4 posted on 10/23/2008 11:00:27 AM PDT by topcat54 ("The selling of bad beer is a crime against Christian love.")
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