Posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:05 AM PST by DarthVader
Read 2 Thessalonians 2.
Amen
Because I was up until 4 AM this morning, tired, my head hurts and not in the mood to engage in critical discussions.
That is totally cool. I was just on the phone with someone who told me to read this chapter not even 5 minutes ago.
Well, there’s nothing critical to discuss, anyway. Either one believes that stuff, or one doesn’t. You do. I don’t. :)
You made your point. Now go on your way to some other thread. Conversation closed.
1. Thank you for bothering to share your exhortation to me. I appreciate such whether I always agree, or not. None of us have the complete picture. All of us see through the glass darkly.
2. Truth sets free . . .
Not fantasies . . .
Particularly the Truth of Christ sets us free.
. . . and His Truth sets us free regardless of other fleshly or hellish contintengencies.
3. My humble words did not and will not speak that into existence. Some things are already more or less cast in stone. It is the watchman’s duty to warn the faithful and even the pagan. That is a duty primarily to God.
4. When the inner press in one’s spirit by Holy Spirit is strong, particularly, then, other folks’ opinions must not matter.
5. This 24-72 hours is a particularly teachable moment time for many clueless folks who have any chance at all to wake-up in sufficient time to get their hearts right with God. WOE TO THE WATCHMAN THAT DOES NOT SPEAK THE STARK TRUTH to such folks at such a time.
6. “Positive” and “negative” depend, often enough, at least partly on perspective. Was Joseph being sold into slavery by his brothers negative or positive? From Joseph’s perspective? At what point in time? From God’s perspective?
7. God prefers obedience vs sacrifice. When we refuse the former, we get the latter. It’s rather like a law. When we don’t sow obedience, we sow sacrifice.
8. Certainly there is a time to focus on the positive confession etc.
9. And, there is a time to declare the horrific realities extant in a situation.
10. All those who love God foremost . . . are strengthened by The Truth. And even the truth of Obamao’s horrors has some inherent positive aspects. MARANATHA! THE LORD JESUS IS COMING SOONER THAN WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT OTHERWISE. We get to see His Face sooner than might have been otherwise. The world gets cleansed sooner than might have been otherwise. Evil gets destroyed and locked away sooner than might have been otherwise.
GOD WILL BE DEMONSTRATING HIS POWER MIGHTILY AND DRAMATICALLY AND VERY SUPERNATURALLY AS IN NO OTHER TIME sooner than might have been otherwise.
In any case, I have no peace in my spirit about modifying, retracting, minimizing what I wrote in 137.
Could it be that God allowed this in order to spur the righteous into rising up up and smoting the wicked? In his infinite wisdom, He knows that Abortion and other liberal abominations will never be defeated by the political process in this country. Also, today’s “loyal opposition” are tomorrow’s political prisoners.
Interesting thought and good point it does require the change of hearts of people.
Darth, I wasn’t pointing fingers at you, nor even at Mr Keller. I was just making a point about what has really happened.
May God have mercy on us.
No offense taken. I think your title idea is more appropriate for this article.
The older you are, the starker the contrast.
But it's the boiling frog story.
The younger people especially, are completely ignorant of what this country once was.
To them things haven't gotten that much worse, and they're right.
They haven't been around long enough.
People who hate this country and everything it stood for have gotten into high places
in politics and education and the media, and have gone about systematically destroying
us from the inside out. It looks like they've captured the "minds" of the youth.
Maybe total economic and societal collapse can undo the damage, but I don't think anything less would.
We're too far gone, maybe terminal.
bfl
Chilling words... chilling words, indeed.
Look at the break down in voters. Obama got a majority of the Catholic and mainline Protestant vote, not to mention a large portion of the Evangelicals.
This for a man who wants, supports, and demands infanticide on any whim.
The people who supposedly love God have said “Not so fast, I want my bling first!”.
I am not really surprised. I feared that this was going to happen. The next move will be the GOP not only going more left, but trying to pass Obama. They can see that we are no longer a nation that has any love for God, or family, or anything else but gold from the public till.
So God hasn't removed His hand, the US has rejected it. So He will let us have what we as nation seem to want. Which will be hell.
2Th 2:1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,
2Th 2:2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction,
2Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
2Th 2:5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
2Th 2:6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time.
2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.
2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
2Th 2:10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
2Th 2:11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,
2Th 2:12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2Th 2:13 But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Lord, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.
2Th 2:14 To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.
2Th 2:16 Now may our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God our Father, who loved us and gave us eternal comfort and good hope through grace,
2Th 2:17 comfort your hearts and establish them in every good work and word.
A lady I once knew remembered when Russia was “Holy Mother Russia”. She once said it will be so again.
I am beginning to think that the US will be on the wrong side in Armageddon.
“I pray. Lord Jesus, come quickly. Your children have gone astray.”
Boy, talk about a quitter!
"The Lord is on his heavenly throne, He observes the sons of men; his eyes examine them."
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