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God Removes His Hand from the United States
Liveprayer.com ^ | 11/05/08 | Bill Keller

Posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:05 AM PST by DarthVader

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To: DarthVader; All

Sure it was a bad night, and times are going to be tough, but let’s don’t forget:

Rom:8:28:
“...that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose”. (KJV)


101 posted on 11/05/2008 6:58:33 AM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Hegewisch Dupa; steve-b

Do not use potty language - or references to potty language - on the Religion Forum.


102 posted on 11/05/2008 6:59:23 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Hemorrhage

Raise that issue with Bill Keller.


103 posted on 11/05/2008 7:09:32 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

“Barabbas means son of shame”

hmmm...I thought it meant “son of the father”


104 posted on 11/05/2008 7:19:49 AM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: TigersEye
My idea of Jesus isn’t of someone who plays games, is fickle or malicious

God isn't. His creation, however, is and as such sometimes demands things He knows will be to their detriment. Since He made us with a free will and not as automatons, sometimes we insist on going down a path of destruction. He lovingly warns us through His Holy Word and the Holy Spirit of the consequences if we insist on taking that path of destruction, but He won't prevent us from harming ourselves if we go ahead and do it anyway despite His warning. In the end, we have no one to blame but ourselves and our pride. God is not at fault for harm we do to ourselves.

105 posted on 11/05/2008 7:20:03 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Obama may be President, but Jesus Christ is still the King, and even Obama's knee will bow to him.)
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To: OB1kNOb
God isn't. ... God is not at fault for harm we do to ourselves.

Then, logically speaking, you agree with my original statement. You certainly just contradicted the original post that started this thread.

106 posted on 11/05/2008 7:30:18 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: FlashBack

>:-) LOL


107 posted on 11/05/2008 7:35:35 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: shhrubbery!
I think the One and BLT meets this definition. BLT is a heresy against Orthodox Christianity. Defn: heretic her·e·tic [ hérrətik ] (plural her·e·tics) noun Definition: 1. somebody who holds unorthodox religious belief: a holder or adherent of an opinion or belief that contradicts established religious teaching 2. somebody with unconventional beliefs: somebody whose opinions, beliefs, or theories in any field are considered by others in that field to be extremely unconventional or unorthodox
108 posted on 11/05/2008 7:41:33 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: TigersEye
Then, logically speaking, you agree with my original statement. You certainly just contradicted the original post that started this thread.

Not in the least. God tells us the consequences for disobeying Him will be that we will no longer be under His protection, we do it anyway despite His warning, then we find out He no longer protects us from the consequences of our rebellious actions against Him. He's not to blame. We walked away from His protection. He did not chase after us to continue to force His protection on us, ergo, His protection withdrew from us as we left it.

109 posted on 11/05/2008 7:42:12 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Obama may be President, but Jesus Christ is still the King, and even Obama's knee will bow to him.)
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To: epow

Terri Schiavo


110 posted on 11/05/2008 8:01:47 AM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
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To: epow

You are correct and all believers need to put on the “full armor of God.”


111 posted on 11/05/2008 8:02:41 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: af_vet_rr

I wasn’t actually counting. I was refering to the conversation with Abraham and the Lord.


112 posted on 11/05/2008 8:14:23 AM PST by CindyDawg (Lord, please bless America)
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To: SoftballMominVA
Please do not give in to fear. Perhaps God was just showing you the risks we face. Repent and pray, and do not lose heart or faith. Please do not speak of negatives that do not yet exist; it gives them power. Speak love, faith, patience, truth, and patience.

Now drunk with power, the misguided will reveal themselves, and many more of the issues-ignorant will wake up.

113 posted on 11/05/2008 8:20:56 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain acceptance speech)
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To: gracesdad
Quit being silly.

He isn't being silly, he's being realistic.

I'm 71, and as of this morning I have lived to see the end of the once great America in which I was born and raised, and the beginning of a counterfeit version of America that I can't even recognize as the nation in which I was raised.

The young Americans who registered and voted for the first time specifically to elect Obama are an entirely different breed than the Americans of my generation and those who preceded us. The best young men and women of this present young generation were fighting Islamic terrorism on foreign soil even as their civilian contemporaries were electing an Islamic president, a man who I believe is more an enemy of those fighting men and women than a friend.

114 posted on 11/05/2008 8:26:00 AM PST by epow (My pastor prays God BLESS America , Barrak HUSSEIN Obama's pastor prays God DAMN America)
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To: joesbucks
So why have your prayers remained unanswered?

God is not a kid in a cap on the other end of the speaker at a McDonald's drive-thru. He answers in His way at His time, which is not necessarily our time. Christ said,

These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. —John 16:33

115 posted on 11/05/2008 8:34:28 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: Guenevere

I was born in 1972. My mom has been saying this EXACT same thing for years now and I believe it to be true as well. Roe V Wade started the downfall of this country.


116 posted on 11/05/2008 8:35:31 AM PST by gore_sux_2000 (Vote in honor of a Veteran! My vote is in honor of My Father.)
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To: gore_sux_2000
Bless you, you're a year older than my daughter.

Thanks for the post.

117 posted on 11/05/2008 8:39:25 AM PST by Guenevere (Do not be afraid of tomorrow.....God is already there.)
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To: Albion Wilde

So despite the wisdom from Christ, there isn’t much good cheer among Christians.


118 posted on 11/05/2008 8:43:39 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: DarthVader

God will not give us anything greater than we can handle. This is a wakeup call. We were startled awake by 9-11. We fell back asleep. This is our call to not fall asleep again!


119 posted on 11/05/2008 8:43:51 AM PST by RocketMan1
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To: Guenevere
Hi Gwennie--it's good to "hear" from you this sad morning. Yet, amid all the raging waves of emotions that the outcome of this election has created within our hearts--it is good to turn to God's STRONG Word and receive this Comfort:

"Be joyful always, pray continually, give thanks in all circumstances." (I Thes. 5:16)

Of course, those words are hard to take to heart right now--yet this was the very same verse Betsie ten Boom reminded her sister Corrie of when they came to the concentration camp at Ravensbruck. They discovered fleas in the blankets of the beds they were to sleep in, and Betsie said they must rejoice IN THE LORD, and be thankful--in ALL circumstances.

Corrie was incredulous that her sister might actually want to thank God for the fleas--but it was those same fleas that kept the guards away from the building, enabling her and Betsie to have a gathering of women each evening for a study of God's word.

And as THE HIDING PLACE so clearly illustrates, the Light of the World often shines most brightly in the places of greatest darkness.

May God keep all of us who love the Light of the World filled with the "oil" of His Holy Spirit, so that we can shine even in great darkness, and:

"Live as children of the light, for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth.." (Eph. 5:8)

Lord--in your mercy, hear our prayer!

120 posted on 11/05/2008 8:44:33 AM PST by milagro
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To: epow

You are correct. You understand what just happened better than most. Freedom in America will soon be a story we tell our grandchildren about. And they will laugh at us.


121 posted on 11/05/2008 8:45:01 AM PST by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking"..J.C. Watts)
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To: gore_sux_2000
Roe V Wade started the downfall of this country.

it started way before that... it started in the 1880s during the Progressive Education Movement led by John Dewey, who gave us "situational ethics," in place of absolutes... this is when good Americans handed over their control of their children's educations to the government... all of this has led to the state of our current government schools...

122 posted on 11/05/2008 8:45:08 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: scripter
ping

it started way before that... it started in the 1880s during the Progressive Education Movement led by John Dewey, who gave us "situational ethics," in place of absolutes... this is when good Americans handed over their control of their children's educations to the government... all of this has led to the state of our current government schools...

123 posted on 11/05/2008 8:47:33 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
After I heard that Obama had won, my first thought was one of surprising clarity; I knew that from this point on it would be about my and my family's relationship with God, our dependence on Him, and nothing else. Things are moving forward at an alarming rate; all man-created political and social systems will fail, Bible prophecy will happen just as written, and, in the end, it will be, just as God has always said, what you have done with Jesus that will be the only thing that matters.

Amen.

124 posted on 11/05/2008 8:53:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: RocketMan1
INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!
INDEED! INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!

125 posted on 11/05/2008 8:55:14 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: RocketMan1
INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!
We fell back asleep.
This is our call to not fall asleep again!
INDEED! INDEED! INDEED! INDEED!

126 posted on 11/05/2008 8:57:12 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: DarthVader

Now, Brother . . .

I think you know better . . .

It will be more like

Katrina times 3 or 4 or 5

at least Katrina on steroids.

Katrina will look like an energetic breeze at a picnic by comparison, imho.


127 posted on 11/05/2008 8:59:45 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: wolfcreek
We deserve what we get but

I am so FLIPPING SICK of this "we" business. Don't you dare lump in the MILLIONS of faithful Christians in this country with the Obamatons. WE didn't do anything wrong -- THEY did.


128 posted on 11/05/2008 9:00:33 AM PST by Cinnamontea
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To: Fred
NOT

READING

The handwriting on

thousands of walls

resulted in this

mess.

Are you asking
for reading lessons?

Or are you
STILL
convinced
that
YOU
'Got it ALL figured out?
'Got it ALL covered?

Personally, your comment sounded like the same ilk of cluelessness that got the Marxist/globalist/traitor elected.

129 posted on 11/05/2008 9:07:06 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Cinnamontea

“WE didn’t do anything wrong”

Perhaps we have failed, for the last 40 years, to resist them as strongly as we should have.


130 posted on 11/05/2008 9:07:53 AM PST by dsc
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To: kindred

We’ve just demonstrated that we’ve already joined the

stupid

part.


131 posted on 11/05/2008 9:08:11 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Actually

MUCH WORSE.


132 posted on 11/05/2008 9:08:57 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: BornToBeAmerican; DarthVader

The Lord will be protecting most folks who love Him first and foremost.

Some will be martyred.

Those who don’t put Him first will be . . . essentially . . . shredded . . . some quickly, some not so quickly.


133 posted on 11/05/2008 9:11:02 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Fred

PRAISE GOD FOR THAT!

But that’s a different issue than what’s going to happen to this geography, way of life, people, government.


134 posted on 11/05/2008 9:11:51 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: DarthVader

He has, however,

started unbuckling His very ample belt.


135 posted on 11/05/2008 9:12:32 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: latina4dubya
Actually, it started long before the first human being showed up in this land. Whether you believe in the Garden of Eden or not, it is hard to deny that there enough Cain in all of us humans to make it damnably un-Able to love our "brothers" as we should, and maintain the kind of peace and harmony that we associate with living in any kind of Utopian world--or Paradise.

We have ALL "fallen short of the glory of God"--and what "wretches"--to use Paul's own desription of himself--we are. And yet, while we were still sinners, God "so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son"--and this so that:

"Therefore, there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." (Eph. 8:1-2)

Man--those words just give me a lot of comfort--and COMFORT--on this rather dismal morning! And they remind me of what my precious husband (known here as 1John until his untimely death in 2002) loved to say: "Our snakes can eat their snakes"! Amen and AMEN!

136 posted on 11/05/2008 9:13:42 AM PST by milagro
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I seriously doubt we’ll have another election before Christ’s return.

Martial law is on the near horizon and all laws and other contingencies are up for grabs if not out right toast.


137 posted on 11/05/2008 9:14:30 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Cvengr

INDEED.

And I need to get some school work done!


138 posted on 11/05/2008 9:15:26 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Good insights.


139 posted on 11/05/2008 9:16:29 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Twinkie
True Christians have petitioned God in great numbers, seeing the evil of this communist, Obama, and before him, the socialist, debauched Clintons, and now the Lord has spoken.

It goes back nearly to the beginning of the nation. Read this, especially about the Treaty of Tripoli and the Supreme Court since 1947.

140 posted on 11/05/2008 9:17:21 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: ventana

Who’s whining.

We are merely watchmen sounding the alarm to wake-up!

FINALLY, PLEASE WAKE-UP!

GET HOUSES IN ORDER!

PREPARE HEARTS AND SUBSTANCE!

GET CLOSE TO AND WALK CLOSE TO GOD!

SHAKE OFF THE CLUELESSNESS!

as we’ve been saying . . . for months to years.


141 posted on 11/05/2008 9:18:05 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: MarDav

INDEED!


142 posted on 11/05/2008 9:18:37 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Rsgood Dsbad
There is no God... I can’t believe that there is another country with a population as stupid as ours.

You need to travel out there and find out for yourself.

143 posted on 11/05/2008 9:20:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: DocT111

Not so sure I’d put it that way.

“The meek SHALL inherit the earth.”

God will remove every last evil person from the planet.

Not us.

God will.

There will be no evil one left to take anything BACK FROM.

God will also erase every last hint that such persons ever existed. All record of their existence will be wiped away. All things shall be made as new. Not even memory of the evil doers shall tarnish the place.


144 posted on 11/05/2008 9:20:54 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: TigersEye; DarthVader

For rational souls . . .

the issue is NOT

whether a mortal has use for God.

The ultimate issue is whether God has use for the mortal.


145 posted on 11/05/2008 9:21:49 AM PST by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: joesbucks
those prayerful pleas for the more Godly man were ignored. Petition denied. God’s will and plan were executed despite the pleas of millions for something better.

Don't lose heart, joesbucks. God isn't a short-order cook. When He fixes something, He does not do it according to our prescription, but His own, which far exceeds our ability to execute or even to imagine.

It may be that our Christian culture must be totally eclipsed before people return to it. Most adolescents rebel against their parents' teachings, but when they have children, most return. Among nations, ours is still young.

146 posted on 11/05/2008 9:24:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: Quix

If I were made by a God would that itself not be proof enough that He had use for me?


147 posted on 11/05/2008 9:30:01 AM PST by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do.)
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To: steve-b
The trend in vote percentages indicates that this is pretty much the peak. I give it ten years before reverse gear kicks in.

I had long ago, in 1969, predicted that this struggle wouldn't be resolved until 2015.

148 posted on 11/05/2008 9:30:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Stand up and fight. We're Americans, and we never give up."--John McCain)
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To: milagro; scripter

yes—i agree with all that you wrote and had even considered “the fall” before i wrote my post on the Progressive Education Movement... however, i was aiming to be more specific in pinpointing the downfall of our nation... and in my opinion, it began somewhere in the 1880s... now i know other things before that led to the point in time in the 1880s when good Americans handed over our most precious resource to the controls of the government...


149 posted on 11/05/2008 9:30:54 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: DarthVader
Too bad we did not adhere to this one:

“My son, fear the LORD and the king; Do not associate with those given to CHANGE; For their calamity will rise suddenly, And who knows the ruin those two can bring?” – Proverbs 24:21-22

150 posted on 11/05/2008 9:31:04 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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