[xzins]

In terms of answering who Jews think the Jews are, I’d think the rabbinic standards were the gold standard.

[Uri’el-2012]

In terms of answering who Jews think the Jews are, I’d think the rabbinic standards were the gold standard.

Except for the Karaites

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[topcat54]

In terms of answering who Jews think the Jews are, I’d think the rabbinic standards were the gold standard.

Are you saying the rabbinic standard is superior to the biblical standard?

Who the Jews think they Jews are was not the original question. The original question was the meaning of the term "Israel " in the context of this discussion. I.e., you said, "I think the issue is whether God still has a special place and role for Israel." Whose definition of "Israel" is the correct one? You seem to be saying that modern rabbis get to define "Israel".