Abandon logic and common sense?
Done and done, I'd say.
It's not interesting at all...Just some clown making stuff up cuz he knows you guys will eat it up...
Matthew 23:2, “The Scribes and the Pharisees have sat on the chair of Moses.”
He first perverts the word of God and then he doesn't know enough bible to find the answers...
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
The Pharisees didn't sit in Moses' chair...Moses didn't have a chair...Moses had a seat...Moses had many seats, depending on which rock he sat on...So the seat was not a chair...It was a POSITION...
Exo 18:13 And it came to pass on the morrow, that Moses sat to judge the people: and the people stood by Moses from the morning unto the evening.
Exo 18:14 And when Moses' father-in-law saw all that he did to the people, he said, What is this thing that thou doest to the people? why sittest thou thyself alone, and all the people stand by thee from morning unto even?
Moses SAT as the judge of his people...THAT is Moses' seat, and not his CHAIR...
Mat 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.Mat 23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
Mat 23:6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
Mat 23:7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
Mat 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
Mat 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
Mat 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Mat 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
Mat 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
This stuff sound familiar??? These are the same Pharisees who, a couple hundred years later claimed they have finally figured out what is and isn't scripture...And that, just so you'll know your history...
I ask no one to do the grunt-work and the Moses verse jumped out at me as one that probably was answerable, however we again see only one of a dozen or so quotes on that page addressed. But you managed to make a meal of it as much as possible for your own position.
I believe these may be valid points still.
Jude 1:9, "Yet when Michael the Archangel was fiercely disputing with the devil about the body of Moses..."
Where can this 'dispute' be found in Holy Scripture?
C. I know where this can be found, in the Apocryphal "Assumption of Moses." (NJB-New Jerusalem Bible): sorry but the author's point holds true. Everything clearly is not in the Lutheran Bible I will say, thus showing Tradition's importance.
2Timothy 3:8, "Just as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these men also resist the truth..."
Who are Jannes and Jambres? Where is the reference? If you know, by what means did you find it?
He doesn't look like much of a clown here. The closest we get is Exodus 7:11 "Then Pharaoh in his turn called for the sages and sorcerers, and by their spells the magicians of Egypt did the same." but this does not mention Jannes and Jambres by name. This must have been told in oral tradition and/or other books not found in the Lutheran Old Testament.
FACT: Jesus Himself lived by these oral traditions.
FACT: Not only did the Lord live by them, but He is also recorded defending one in Matthew 23.
Matthew 23: 1-3: "Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, saying, ‘The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all the things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example.’ "
FACT: The "chair of Moses" was Moses' teaching authority, according to ancient Jewish oral tradition.
For example, it is recorded in the Midrash Rabbah: "They made for him (Moses) a chair like that of the advocates, in which one sits and yet seems to be standing." (Exodus Rabbah 43:4)
Also, the Pesikta siRav Kahana 1:7 mentions the "chair of Moses," and the editors of the English edition comment:
"The particular place in the synagogue where the leaders used to sit was known metaphorically as the ‘chair of Moses’ or as the ‘Throne of the Torah,’ symbolizing the succession of teachers of Torah (from Moses) down through the ages."
FACT: While the "chair of Moses" is an element of ancient Jewish tradition -- apparently dating from the time of Moses himself -- it is recorded nowhere in the Old Testament Scriptures. Rather, it is strictly an oral Tradition.
FACT: Yet, while not being recorded in the Old Testament, Jesus Himself -- Who is (let us not forget) the Word of God -- bears testimony to its legitimacy.
Therefore, it must be admitted that the Word of God as we have it in the Old Testament is not merely a Scriptural record, but rather comes to us (at least in this one case) through both Scripture as well as a living oral Tradition. The idea that the Scribes and Pharisees (i.e., "the fathers of Israel") were the direct successors of Moses’ authority is stated nowhere in Old Testament Scripture; yet He Who is the Word of God tells us this based on oral Tradition.
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/a21.htm
So the Chair of Moses is in fact Jewish Tradition and is found in writings of the Jewish Faith!
Abandon logic and common sense?
Done and done, I'd say.