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1 posted on 12/04/2008 7:44:22 AM PST by NYer
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Ping!


2 posted on 12/04/2008 7:44:42 AM PST by NYer ("Run from places of sin as from a plague." - St. John Climacus)
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To: NYer

and how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

Any priest (assuming he is a Christian) would know under what circumstances to report something dreadful or possibly life threatening. OR better yet: TCOB himself.


5 posted on 12/04/2008 7:58:15 AM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: NYer
Fascinating, I'm glad to see that there is a codicil made for a Priest who has knowledge that a crime will be committed can try to warn the victim of such an attack.

BTW, there existed a Common Law Priest Penitent relationship, but it was not incorporated into US Law until the Special Prosecutor tried to subpoena President Nixon's Priest:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=445&invol=40

supreme.justia.com/us/445/40/case.html

Conversation with Le Bon Deiu are to be kept confidential.

7 posted on 12/04/2008 7:58:34 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: All

If you haven’t seen it yet, the Hitchcock movie “I Confess” deals with this topic and is great.


11 posted on 12/04/2008 8:05:30 AM PST by Campion
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To: NYer
The straw that broke this camel's back was when an Episcopal cleric was advised by the headquarters of the Episcopal Church to violate the seal of the confessional. It is true that the penitent gave his consent, but the alleged law of the Episcopal Church on confession is
The secrecy of a confession is morally absolute for the confessor, and must under no circumstances be broken.
Evidently the circumstance of a judge telling a cleric that he'll be fined $1k per diem for contempt is, well, not a circumstance, because when THAT happens, the Episcopal Church rolls over.
12 posted on 12/04/2008 8:06:16 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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Jerry: You iknow I talked to the rabbi outside. Understand you had a little talk with him too.

Elaine: Yeah, talked earlier.

Jerry: Yes I know, I know.

Elaine: He didn’t mention . . .

Jerry: Yes he did.

Elaine: He told you about our conversation?

Jerry: We had quite a little chat.

Elaine: He told you about . . .

Jerry: Yes, about how you’re very jealous of George. How you wished it was you who were getting married instead of him.

Elaine: He told you all that? How could he?

Jerry: It didn’t take much prodding either, I must say.

Elaine: Can he do that?

Jerry: He did it.

Elaine: But he’s a Rabbi! How can a Rabbi have such a big mouth?

Jerry: That’s what’s so fascinating.


14 posted on 12/04/2008 8:12:05 AM PST by earlJam
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To: NYer

I’m not an expert in Canon Law, but we were told in Catholic school by a priest that a priest cannot even acknowledge that a person went to him for confession. If he breaks the seal of the confessional, then the priest is not only defrocked, but also excommunicated. Like I said, I don’t know what Canon law actually says on this, but this is what the priest told us.


15 posted on 12/04/2008 8:12:12 AM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: NYer

NO!

There is a new book out called “The Seal.” Haven’t read it yet, but I think it will be good. (By a priest I know.)


16 posted on 12/04/2008 9:13:31 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer; murron

I have asked priests about this. It is one area whether young or old, liberal or “traditional” they seem to be in agreement. This is a sacred thing, the “seal of the confessional”. However, one priest told me what he could do is assign as penance that the person confess to the police and willingly accept his fair legal punishment. Or if there is not sincere repentance and intention to avoid sin, withhold absolution, perhaps advising the person to seek other help (such as counseling where the professional WOULD report to the police), or to confess first and then he will give absolution. The priest said it’s impossible to apply any formula, as 99 percent of people have the same old ordinary, usual sins and this does not come up, but in the rare occasion of a serious crime or potential for one, each situation is unique and he must be quite sensitive to how he could influence the person. This from a man a priest for over 60 years.


23 posted on 12/04/2008 11:34:57 PM PST by baa39 (www.FightFOCA.com - innocent lives depend on you)
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To: NYer

BTTT!


24 posted on 06/08/2009 3:01:39 PM PDT by Salvation († With God all things are possible.†)
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