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Disgraced Evangelical Leader Ted Haggard Says He Struggles With Sexuality
Fox News ^ | December 19, 2008

Posted on 12/19/2008 8:28:18 AM PST by Alex Murphy

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Disgraced evangelical leader Ted Haggard says in a new documentary that he still struggles with his sexuality yet is committed to his marriage for the sake of his children.

Haggard, 52, resigned as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and was fired as senior pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs in November 2006 after a former male prostitute went public with allegations that Haggard paid him for sex and used methamphetamine.

A father of five, Haggard had said he bought the drugs but never used them. He confessed to undisclosed "sexual immorality" and has said, "I really did sin."

The Gazette of Colorado Springs reported Thursday that in the documentary, Haggard talks about a lifelong battle with his sexuality — and that he never claimed to be heterosexual.

"The reason I kept my personal struggle a secret is because I feared that my friends would reject me, abandon me and kick me out, and the church would exile and excommunicate me. And that happened and more," he says.

Haggard's wife, Gayle, says she is committed to Haggard.

"I know to restore the honor to our children is to help restore honor to their father," she says.

"The Trials of Ted Haggard," directed by Alexandra Pelosi, daughter of U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is set to air Jan. 29 on HBO. The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Haggard has agreed to promote the documentary.

Haggard moved his family to Arizona after the scandal and also lived in Texas. He re-emerged last month at a rural Illinois church, where he delivered guest sermons and said he was sexually abused as a second-grader.

He now sells insurance and, in the documentary, says he isn't successful.

"At this stage in my life, I am a loser"

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TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Skeptics/Seekers
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"The Trials of Ted Haggard," directed by Alexandra Pelosi, daughter of U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is set to air Jan. 29 on HBO. The Associated Press reported Wednesday that Haggard has agreed to promote the documentary....in the documentary, Haggard talks about a lifelong battle with his sexuality — and that he never claimed to be heterosexual.
1 posted on 12/19/2008 8:28:18 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Some people just don’t know when to go away.


2 posted on 12/19/2008 8:30:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
Amen to that.

Some people cannot stand to be out of the limelight no matter what it takes.

Would that God "help" Ted to step back into the shadows and quit dragging his family into his continued shameful self-promotion.

3 posted on 12/19/2008 8:32:55 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Alex Murphy
Maybe Obama should use him for his address.
4 posted on 12/19/2008 8:32:59 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Alex Murphy
Dear kids
You are to blame for me having to stay with your mother instead of living my life as a perv .
luv
Daddy Ted
5 posted on 12/19/2008 8:33:26 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: Alex Murphy

Oh geesh. This guy is a loser. Why doesn’t he just shut the fk up.


6 posted on 12/19/2008 8:34:03 AM PST by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t whats worse...his story or a Pelosi offspring making documentaries.


7 posted on 12/19/2008 8:35:06 AM PST by Dallas59 (Not My President)
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To: cripplecreek

“”The reason I kept my personal struggle a secret is because I feared that my friends would reject me, abandon me and kick me out, and the church would exile and excommunicate me. And that happened and more,” he says. “

No, they would have kicked you out of any leadership positon, and that is exactly what happened.

If this was a guy who’s sin was bank robbery, there would be no controversy. Someone that robs banks wouldn’t be abandoned, they would be told to give up their sin of bank robbery and repent. They certainly wouldn’t be allowed to hold a leadership positon in the church while they continued to rob banks.

But because this is a sexual sin it is controversial. It shouldn’t be. Substitute bank robbery and everything becomes clear (and his excuses and struggles don’t seem to wash anymore.)


8 posted on 12/19/2008 8:36:11 AM PST by Brookhaven (The Fair Tax is THE economic litmus test for conservatives)
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To: Alex Murphy

I guess the gay life isn’t so gay after all. I feel sorry for the guy even though I am not condoning his activities with hustlers and possible drug use. If one can kind of put two and two together in regard to their sexuality (on which side do they they like their bread buttered) they should make that choice and stick with it. If you stay confused there’s nothing but trouble for you and trouble for those who are involved in your life (like wives and kids).


9 posted on 12/19/2008 8:38:29 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Are you ready for four years of fun in Washington?)
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To: Alex Murphy

Point of order. He is a married man with kids.

Any sex he engaged in outside of marriage is adultery.

The headline should read “He struggles with adultery” if the news organization didn’t have an agenda to push.

We are all sinners. There is one demographic who wants us to parrot their delusion that their sin is a sin no more and should be celebrated.


10 posted on 12/19/2008 8:42:10 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Alex Murphy
was fired as senior pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs in November 2006 after a former male prostitute went public with allegations that Haggard paid him for sex and used methamphetamine.

Imagine if a homosexual made these allegations about a major presidential candidate. You'd think that might be big news based on how the media treats THIS story 2 years out.

11 posted on 12/19/2008 8:44:11 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: nmh

Nah, the agy activists won’t be satisfied becuse Ted is not an out & proud gay man—he’s “conflicted”—and that is a no-no.

I think it’s hilarious that Obama basically has given the middle finger to gay activists. Well, I can understand it from the point that open support of the gay agenda would tick off mant in the black community. They would have voted Obama regardless, but would have given him lots of flack. Obama was smart in avoidng the grief he would have gotten if he had openly endorsed gay marriage et. cetera


12 posted on 12/19/2008 8:45:19 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Are you ready for four years of fun in Washington?)
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To: Brookhaven

Kleptomaniacs can’t help themselves. They were born like that...


13 posted on 12/19/2008 8:45:47 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Alex Murphy
he never claimed to be heterosexual.

Does his wife testify to that ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
14 posted on 12/19/2008 8:46:40 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Alex Murphy
and said he was sexually abused as a second-grader.

Some would say that he was victimized by a homosexual but that would be wrong and judgemental. Clearly it is genetic, with no social factors.

15 posted on 12/19/2008 8:47:58 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Alex Murphy
he never claimed to be heterosexual.

Does his wife testify to that ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
16 posted on 12/19/2008 8:49:32 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: brooklyn dave

Ted’s on his was to rehabilitation because Pelsoi’s daughter is making the film.

It’s like going before Al Sharpton to have your name reclaimed when you are branded a racist.


17 posted on 12/19/2008 8:49:48 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Alex Murphy
Haggard's wife, Gayle, says she is committed to Haggard. "I know to restore the honor to our children is to help restore honor to their father," she says.

Sounds like one high class bimbo... Is standing with a sociopathic-type liar really a good example for her children?

18 posted on 12/19/2008 8:49:48 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: Alex Murphy
Haggard's wife, Gayle, says she is committed to Haggard. "I know to restore the honor to our children is to help restore honor to their father," she says.

Sounds like one high class bimbo... Is standing with a sociopathic-type liar really a good example for her children?

19 posted on 12/19/2008 8:50:04 AM PST by GOPJ (Gun Control-:- like trying to control stray dogs by neutering veterinarians.- G. Jonas)
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To: Alex Murphy
he still struggles with his sexuality yet is committed to his marriage for the sake of his children.

Ouch. That's gotta leave a mark on the wife.

20 posted on 12/19/2008 8:50:39 AM PST by earlJam
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To: weegee
and said he was sexually abused as a second-grader.

Homosexuality is a behavior, it is a learned behavior, it is an addictive behavior.........
21 posted on 12/19/2008 8:50:59 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
A friend took me to his church and I met him.

He has always been a self absorbed drama queen.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

22 posted on 12/19/2008 8:57:33 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Brookhaven

Good points.

However, sexual temptation is a couple of orders of magnitude more intense than other types, financial and so forth.

Not an excuse for immoral behavior, but we should recognize that resisting sexual temptation is a good deal more difficult, perhaps especially for those who had their wiring sexual messed up by childhood abuse.


23 posted on 12/19/2008 8:58:38 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Having True Grace means never having to Struggle.


24 posted on 12/19/2008 9:01:34 AM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: weegee
Imagine if a homosexual made these allegations about a major presidential candidate. You'd think that might be big news based on how the media treats THIS story 2 years out.

The leftist media only makes a big deal out of it because they consider Haggard a hypocrite. The left has no trouble with someone being a degenerate or a criminal, as long as the person is not on record as condemning something he in which he is involved. So, if Haggard had been an openly gay/drug-using preacher, that'd be cool with them.

25 posted on 12/19/2008 9:06:29 AM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sherman Logan
Methinks if he were truly repentant, he'd leave the limelight. Perhaps pride is the sin that's really giving him fits.

I'll believe him when he disappears from public view, lives a quiet, faithful life under the accountability of a good church.

While God graciously forgives anyone who is truly sorry, we can and should judge the fruits on the tree...

26 posted on 12/19/2008 9:10:02 AM PST by elk
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To: elk

I agree.


27 posted on 12/19/2008 9:16:05 AM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I predict than within 2 years Haggard will abandon his heterosexual life altogether and announce that God made him homosexual and accepts him just as he is.


28 posted on 12/19/2008 9:27:49 AM PST by slumber1
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To: Alex Murphy
"At this stage in my life, I am a loser"

It's a start, that realization.

29 posted on 12/19/2008 9:37:17 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

“Having True Grace means never having to Struggle.”

You’ve got to be kidding.

2 words for you

Jesus
Gethsemane

I have a lot more- but those two should suffice


30 posted on 12/19/2008 9:40:09 AM PST by will of the people
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To: slumber1

“I predict than within 2 years Haggard will abandon his heterosexual life altogether and announce that God made him homosexual and accepts him just as he is.”

And promptly start sleeping with everything. He’ll get busted in a rest stop bathroom before that revelation.


31 posted on 12/19/2008 9:44:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: XeniaSt; PeterPrinciple; Alex Murphy
He has always been a self absorbed drama queen.

Always? You base this assessment on one meeting. How would you say your comment exhibits the "chesed" of your haMashiach?

In the Christian faith there is opportunity for redemption and restoration, when the Spirit of Christ works in a person to bring them to the point when they can honestly acknowledge their sin before Almighty God. Whether Mr. Haggard has come to the point in his life or not is yet to be seen.

Sadly, there are consequences to our actions regardless of sincere expressions of repentance. No doubt Mr. Haggard and his family are experiencing those consequences. We might pray that God continues to work in all the lives caught up in the human tragedy.

32 posted on 12/19/2008 9:44:25 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: Alex Murphy

If you have unresolved issues in your life that would do damage to the ministry, you have to step aside. Step out of the pulpit. Take a couple of years and deal with it.

There are thousands of ways you can serve God, but you can’t be in the limelight where your problems are going to do damage to your mission. God can heal this kind of thing, but until he does you have no business in the pulpit.

I’ve thought the same thing about some of the other famous preachers who have crashed and burned. If they knew they were out of control they needed to step out of the limelight for a couple of years and deal with it. If you’re having your midlife crisis, go do something else for a while until you’ve come to terms with it. Don’t let something like this destroy what you and God and thousands of churchmembers have built up over years.

In my youth I remember that our preacher, at the first hint something wasn’t right, immediately resigned and took his seat in the pews as just another member. And recently where I attend now, an assistant pastor announced that he had some unresolved issues and was stepping out of the leadership for a couple of years to deal with whatever it is. Very low key. Thats the way it ought to be done.


33 posted on 12/19/2008 9:49:09 AM PST by marron
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Disgraced Evangelical Leader Ted Haggard Says He Struggles With Sexuality

Check out these prior headlines. Whose interests were being served in each case?:
from 2006: Evangelist admits meth, massage, no sex
from 2007: HBO Filmmaker Liked Ted Haggard; He Wasn’t The Usual 'Holy Roller Jesus Freak'
from 2007: Haggard says he's not gay [emerged from counseling, convinced he is "completely heterosexual"]
from 2007: Haggard Now 'Completely Heterosexual'
from 2007: Pastor ends his gay phase [ Ted Haggard ]
from 2008: Church Says Haggard's Restoration 'Incomplete'

34 posted on 12/19/2008 9:52:46 AM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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To: topcat54
In the Christian faith there is opportunity for redemption and restoration, when the Spirit of Christ works in a person to bring them to the point when they can honestly acknowledge their sin before Almighty God. Whether Mr. Haggard has come to the point in his life or not is yet to be seen.

I'd say it's glaringly obvious that he has not come to that point. He's still blaming the church and those around him.
35 posted on 12/19/2008 9:57:14 AM PST by slumber1
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To: will of the people

I guess you don’t get it.


36 posted on 12/19/2008 10:13:04 AM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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To: Dallas59
I don’t whats worse...his story or a Pelosi offspring making documentaries.

Her documentaries are actually pretty good. The one where she went around the country talking to conservative Christians trying to getter a better understanding of them was very fair.

37 posted on 12/19/2008 10:16:19 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: topcat54; PeterPrinciple; Alex Murphy
The event took place 10 years ago.

Ted had just put on a 300 person Easter play
at his mega church for 1000s of parishioners.

As we were leaving, I shook his hand
and said "Great show pastor".

He beamed and was effusive.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

38 posted on 12/19/2008 10:22:18 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

They didn’t even want to entertain the allegations made by Larry Sinclair against Barack Obama.


39 posted on 12/19/2008 10:38:54 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: Alex Murphy

So in other words, the interventions that claim sexuality transformation don’t work?


40 posted on 12/19/2008 10:41:00 AM PST by joesbucks (Sarah Palin: "I believe John McCain is the best leader that we have in the nation right now,)
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To: Alex Murphy

Is a documentary about this Ted Haggard person really necessary, especially if is produced by Pelosi’s daughter?


41 posted on 12/19/2008 12:08:58 PM PST by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: FarRightFanatic

It’s a second documentary. She profiled him in another film about “conservative Christians in Red State America”. She also made that film about travelling with President Bush on the campaign trail (and pushed him about the death penalty in Texas).


42 posted on 12/19/2008 12:27:52 PM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: weegee
They didn’t even want to entertain the allegations made by Larry Sinclair against Barack Obama.

That's because Obama is not on record as having spoken out against having gay sex and doing coke with a dude.

43 posted on 12/19/2008 12:28:07 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: weegee

“It’s a second documentary. She profiled him in another film about “conservative Christians in Red State America”. She also made that film about travelling with President Bush on the campaign trail (and pushed him about the death penalty in Texas).”

Good grief.


44 posted on 12/19/2008 12:35:10 PM PST by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Just why does one man’s sin deserve a “documentary”, while another’s is just plain old adultery?


45 posted on 12/19/2008 2:48:24 PM PST by HondaCRF450
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To: GOPJ
Sounds like one high class bimbo... Is standing with a sociopathic-type liar really a good example for her children?

Is forgiving her husband for infidelity a bad example to her children? It sounds to me like the Christian way. If that couple can save their marriage, it will be because of the wife's love.

46 posted on 12/19/2008 9:22:59 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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To: stripes1776

How many of you have ever prayed for Ted Haggard? Is your sin any more appealing to God than his? Does not God forgive if he will truly repent? Is it possible that he might go to heaven and you not be there when your name is called?


47 posted on 12/21/2008 10:16:26 AM PST by tessalu
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To: elk

Well said.


48 posted on 12/21/2008 12:33:07 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: tessalu
How many of you have ever prayed for Ted Haggard? Is your sin any more appealing to God than his? Does not God forgive if he will truly repent? Is it possible that he might go to heaven and you not be there when your name is called?

The church has long taught that all sins are not equal. Sexual sins are at the bottom of the list. At the very top is the sin of pride. Unfortunately we live in an age that has turned the list upside down. Nobody cares about pride any more. In fact, I think we may be the first age to turn pride into a virtue. That is a great distortion.

Haggard's wife has forgiven him. That is a sign of great love. I do hope they can save their marriage. I believe he has repented. But if he wants to save his marriage, he will also have to change his behavior. He has a loving and forgiving wife. I do hope he comes to his senses.

Haggard says he is still struggling. He may have to struggle the rest of his life. God can forgive an infinite number of times. But I would not count on his wife forgiving him an infinite number of times.

As to who gets into Heaven, I have not been given the list. Therefore, I do not know who gets in and who does not. You and I could both be going to Hell. That is part of the great Christian drama. We will have to wait and see.

49 posted on 12/21/2008 1:21:45 PM PST by stripes1776 ("That if gold rust, what shall iron do?" --Chaucer)
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