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To: briarbey b

The gospels record the Church as a single body united by Eucharistic Christ (Rm 12, 1 Cor. 10) and organized around her bishops (Acts 20:28) who meet in councils, teach and legislate (Acts 15). Re-read the catholic epistles, and Acts.

The Acts specifically mentions monetary contributions and shows that God was not happy with those holding on to their wallets (Acts 5:1-10)

But even supposing the notion of invisible church has any connection to historical Christianity, — it doesn’t — what do you have against civilization?


35 posted on 12/21/2008 11:40:52 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
But even supposing the notion of invisible church has any connection to historical Christianity, — it doesn’t — what do you have against civilization?

I don't think anyone has anything against civilization. The idea that the church is "invisible" is ridiculous to the extreme. The people are the "ekklesia", the "church", and they are not "invisible" by any stretch of the imagination. The "institutions" are not the "church", but simply the gathering of those brought under its sway and governance - be it through rules, dogma or doctrine, or through the officers of the institution, especially the one who is raised on a pedestal to be the "head" of the group.

It is a shame that adherents of a "group" psychology give praise and glory to an institution rather than limiting their praise and glory to God and His Christ (His Messiah, His "anointed" One).

38 posted on 12/21/2008 12:07:15 PM PST by Truth Defender (Christ did NOT come to save an immortal sinner, but to give a mortal sinner the offer of immortality)
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To: annalex

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Annalex...me trying to show you what I am talking about is like trying to explain the blue sky or stars to a blind person. You’ve been indoctrinated...brain-washed.

THIS is just ONE of the end-times deception...the idea that it is a building..that can be burnt, blown up...rot from age ect. that makes you civilized, that saves your soul??? Christ didn’t have a building to build His Kingdom..yet he built it...he wasn’t civilized?


39 posted on 12/21/2008 12:16:14 PM PST by briarbey b
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